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I have seen stranger things then putting a SHO into a C4. There is a guy out there that put a Mazda Rotary into a C5 so from that stand point I say go for it. Just make sure that you go into it eyes wide open. It will require a lot of custom fabrication and adapters to be made. The aftermarket EFI to make the engine run should be reasonably straight forward but getting the dash to work will be a big challenge and you might end up just going with a aftermarket autometer set up. On the other hand everything involved with getting the SHO engine into the C4 will be very expensive and time consuming. So unless you have pretty deep pockets and can do most of the work yourself then you would likely be better off selling the SHO engine and buying and installing a boring all aluminum LS set up. Swap parts are mostly off the shelf and I have seen several LS swaps that have the dash and everything working and looks like the factory built it that way. You will also get more power cheaper and much lighter then the L98 out of the LS then you ever will from the SHO. So it's all up to what you want to use the car for. A car that draws a crowd at the car show then the SHO would likely do that. A good driver that you can race and abuse then the LS or rebuilding the L98 into a strong 383 would be better suited to that use.

 

Oh Lord ,Ford v6 in a Chevy corvette.....

 

It could be worse, he could want to put a 5.0 out of a Mustang. ( But I have to admit the 5.0 5 speed fox body Mustang I had rank as one of my favorites)

 

I'll try not to derail this thread too much here...
Even though the intake location isn't ideal, the IAT normally runs about 10°F above the ambient temperature, 20° while it is under full boost. (Car has a front mounted intercooler.) I haven't bothered trying for a cooler intake location since I'm planning a twin turbo setup this winter and didn't figure it worth the work for something I'd have to completely redesign and build. (Designing and fabricating the manifolds is already a ton of work!) The planned location for the twins will be lower and further back, probably requiring a scavenger pump to get the oil back to the pan.

I've got a Holley HP. I will be using their W/M injection kit in the future when I push the boost pressure higher but it isn't necessary with the relatively low 5 psi I'm currently running. The HP system is capable of using one or two knock sensors.

 

Great link, and neat car

 

Thanks! I rather thought so, too. I dig it.

 

I can't believe you still post stuff like this. Its not even realistic anymore. It's almost like the world's longest running joke at this point.
Your LT will never compare to my LS, ever. LT1/4 are absolute garbage. I'm finally stooping to your level and saying it. Your stock bottom end LT will never handle the power of any of my stock bottom end LS engines.
You will never go as fast, and you will always struggle 5x as hard to fail to do so.
Your supercharged LT on nitrous with E85 and meth injection will never even hold a candle to what my little 260k mile 4.8 did on 9 PSI.

Done.

To the OP, I'd recommend fixing the original engine. If the engine itself is fine, and you're going to have to run a stand-alone on the SHO, it would just make more logical sense from time/cost/difficulty/effort/logistical points to just buy a standalone and put it on your L98. I'm sure there are standalones that can be made to work on both engines, so worst possible scenario, you've just spent a bit of time tinkering with the stand alone on the original engine as either a learning experience or finding out how it interacts with the rest of the car for when you do finally do the swap. There aren't really any downsides to doing so.

I've owned an SHO before. Fun engines, but they certainly have their issues. Without a power-adder, performance will seem lackluster even to a stock TPI engine in a C4. You'll also have the headaches of the C-beam, shifter location, power steering and AC should you keep them, and will need a custom driveshaft, engine mounts, etc.

 

For pure performance, yes the LS swap may be the current hot ticket. Variety is the spice of life as they say however. Not everyone is interested in LS based swaps as the only option out there at this point. Go to a Rod show sometime and look at how many SBC's are in Model A and 32 Fords, classic Hemi's in T-Buckets, and the 5.9L Cummins in just about everything you can imagine. I for one love the creativity it takes to do something different and enjoy seeing the many possibilities that are out there.

 

JoeNova is right.


But this is right too. And means more to me today, than "1200hp", or "whatever". I can't emphasize enough how little I care about a sweet Camaro, an old Firebird, a killer, clean Bronco......any car, with an LS swap. I've seen some damn cool cars at C&C and shows, then I look under the hood and see the plastic intake, stupid e-throttle and coils on the valve covers. Interest is gone. That was a cool car, then they LS swapped it. I walk away and look for a more interesting car.

















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We seem to have strayed from the original topic....
But then again, the original topic was pretty absurd to begin with!

 

Maybe.....but I'd stare that THAT car, all morning long at Cars and Coffee. I'd ask the owner a **** load of questions....I'd dig it, 100%.

 

Not disagreeing. This is why I've been so giddy to get to take a Mercedes M120 V12 and convert it to ITBs and equal length long tubes, or start on a motorcycle powered cross kart that I've been wanting to build for years.
I'm also not delirious enough to make radical outlandish claims because I'm in catastrophic denial and can't get over my own shortcomings and failures.

I'm all for the SHO swap in a C4. I think it would be an amazing learning experience, but I also think it should only be done if the reason justifies the journey that the swap will be. If you're only doing it because there is an electrical issue with your V8 and not because you are dead-set on swapping the SHO engine into the C4, then consider re-evaluating your decision.

 

It's funny what happens to you as we get a little age on us. I'm exactly the same way. 20-25 years ago I was involved in chasing that ultimate Dyno number or knocking another 10th off on the track. Now I go to events and can walk right by the Dyno and never blink an eye.

Very valid. I actually believe that we are much closer in our thinking than it may appear.

 

....I am in the same boat. Used to care about fractions of a second, but now, quick and cool suffices.

 

Totally!! All I used to care about is "what a car can do". Then, I bought the "boringest fast car ever made" (a C6) and it totally changed my mind on what mattered the most.

 

I put a 383 in my 86.
it was still a stone.
i put a 3:07 rearend in it, still a stone.
then i had a muffler shop cut off the cats (true dual exhaust) and install “test pipes”.
that was the problem, the cats were melted and plugging up the exhaust.
try that and you might find the hidden problem.