Hello all, I wanted to get some opinions on which route to go for my car as there are many options and I wanna hear all of your stories or pros and cons.

I am going to need to be able to datalog at a minimum due to the modifications to the car which will hopefully be complete over the next couple of days. You can follow along the long journey of that process and see what are mostly my struggles here, L98 Top End Upgrade Process.

To continue, I got a good base tune, at least what I hope is good, from PCMofNC which I hope will get me started and run fairly well. However, I know there will probably need to be minor changes to it to maximize the output from the car. I am trying to figure out if data logging and sending it to him will be better in the long run or if I should get the Moates APU1 AutoProm package so I can burn my own chips and do it all myself with the obvious learning curve at an equipment cost of about $330.

Then to throw into the mix, there is the Ostrich 2.0. Seems like it is a fairly simple unit for half of the price of the APU 1 and deletes the middle man of chip burning and is basically On-The-Fly for any changes with a cost of about $175

It seems just the data logging cables and cost to have a chip reflashed at PCMofNC is approximately $130. $80 for the cable and $50 per chip reflash which could get quite expensive for something I could do myself.

Please let me know your thoughts and experiences. I'm leaning towards the ostrich due to cost and capability, but I have never used it before and am unsure of possible hidden quirks with it.

Thank you all!

 

I have been using the ostrich for 7 years. I never burned a chip Guess i should get someone to do it for me soon.soon, not sure how long the internal battery lasts theres a learning curve datalogging . I know the minimum and got my combo to run real well

 

I don't know or wanna know jack bout any of that but a member here has some vids that may be helpful, not watched them myself but here is one and you can check out his channel for others

 

Thanks for the videos, I have them saved as they will most likely come in handy fairly soon.

I think I will be leaning towards the APU1 package as of right now as it comes with everything needed in total and allows me to burn chips for better long-term use in comparison to the Ostrich.

 

More than 1 way to skin a cat... APU1 package doesn't come with a G1 adapter that you need to interface the APU1 for real time emulation. Also recommend a low profile zero insertion force (zif) socket that sits on the G1 for ease of changing PROMs or connecting the ribbon cable for emulation. Be advised that the ribbon doesn't fit on the zif without some clearancing. TBH I've only used the real time tuning to dial in idle. All other tuning was log and burn, log and burn, log and burn. With that said, you could get away with a ALDL cable or some kind of BT interface unit, burner, blank PROM chips and G1 adapter w zif. DIY ALDL cables can be made for cheap, too.

Oh...APU1 does allow adding WB (which I don't own, yet) into datastream...

 

I believe I already have a G1 adaptor from the mail order tune chip but I would have to double-check on that. I definitely do not have the ZIF and will definitely get one due to its ease of use! Thanks for that tip because I didn't even see that before.

For the wideband, is it just the sensors that would be needed then for the input or a whole wideband setup?

 

I have no experience with WB. I'd imagine sensor and controller but when not datalogging would nice to have a gauge. Scroll all the way to the bottom of this page... http://support.moates.net/autoprom-apu1/