C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

The case for overlap (and LSA).

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 10, 2022 | 01:38 PM
  #21  
wilcar's Avatar
wilcar
Drifting
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,263
Likes: 188
From: Wabasha Mn
Default

Originally Posted by Phobos84
There is a great thread that is now a sticky over on LS1Tech forums. You can see it here.

It does a great job explaining what LSA is and isn't. It also goes into overlap. What I gather from that write up and others are that LSA and overlap alone in STREET CARS won't change top end significantly but will drastically change drive-ability and tune-ability. So if it's a street application and you want to be able to idle at a stop sign and you want it to be easy to tune then you need a cam that will give up power everywhere. Just like increasing lift and duration can increase power so can changing the LSA but all of these dimensions can and will effect "drive-ability". The thing is that concept is subjective to the individual.

I could care less if the motor has chop. Also I don't care if I leave 5 to 10 hp on the table so to speak. My criteria in a camshaft is low cost, and easy tuning with a cam that can meet my power goals. This is why I always go with an off the shelf cam that was designed for factory length push rods. I totally avoid the custom or re-ground cams.

Companies like Elgin and Summit Racing have done an amazing job making good low cost performance cams that are easy to tune. But again this is for a street car. If this is a racing application then it is a totally different scenario and far outside of my wheel house.
Some of the old California cam makers like Crower, Isky, and Clay Smith still have quality cams and decent prices. Have used them all and never had a problem. Currently using 2 Isky solid lifter cams, one in my 84 C4 and another in my 65 Gto. Old school grinds that are easy on the valvetrain. Both cams ground on 108 LSA .

Reply
Old Feb 11, 2022 | 10:42 AM
  #22  
stingr69's Avatar
stingr69
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,477
Likes: 1,495
From: Little Rock AR
Default

Originally Posted by wilcar
Some of the old California cam makers like Crower, Isky, and Clay Smith still have quality cams and decent prices. Have used them all and never had a problem. Currently using 2 Isky solid lifter cams, one in my 84 C4 and another in my 65 Gto. Old school grinds that are easy on the valvetrain. Both cams ground on 108 LSA .
Are you still running that Isky Z-20 on 108 LSA? How does it idle? where does the power band start and drop off? I was thinking about swapping that into my 10:1 302 engine.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2022 | 08:18 AM
  #23  
wilcar's Avatar
wilcar
Drifting
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,263
Likes: 188
From: Wabasha Mn
Default

Originally Posted by stingr69
Are you still running that Isky Z-20 on 108 LSA? How does it idle? where does the power band start and drop off? I was thinking about swapping that into my 10:1 302 engine.
Still running the Z20. I have 14-15 " of vacuum at 900 rpm. Have a mild stall convertor in the 700r4 and 3.07 gear. I think it would work fine in a 302. The Z20 is not to far off from the 097 cam specs . I have plenty of power up to 5000 rpm and could go higher. With the 700r4 I have a lot of low and mid range. I run the same spec Isky cam in my 470" 65 4 speed Gto and it pulls 18" of vacuum ! Note: Z20 has 112 LSA but I ordered mine direct from Isky with the 108 LSA .

Last edited by wilcar; Feb 12, 2022 at 08:27 AM.
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:33 PM.

story-0
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-5
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE