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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 02:59 PM
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Good afternoon, I did a quick search, has anyone done this conversion to their 85 vette? Besides the parts, what other issues are involved? Thanks in advance.
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 08:40 PM
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If you are going to all that trouble then a Tremec 5 or 6 speed would be a better option than the 4+3 IMO.
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jazfe
If you are going to all that trouble then a Tremec 5 or 6 speed would be a better option than the 4+3 IMO.
I have to agree and if you're going to it, do tremec or ZF, putting a 4+3 in requires some wiring, and more modifications to car more than a calculated placed hole. The 4+3 has a remote shifter tub formed into the transmission hump.

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Unless Massachusetts is like Pennsylvania and manual Vettes are extremely rare I would say sell the car and buy a manual. If you just want a basic 4+3 and don't intend on building a fast car then that's your best option.

I wonder though why you want a 4+3? I kind of get wanting a manual trans but it just never seemed worth it to me to swap one. If you had to you could always throw a manual valve body in your 700r4 with a ratchet shiftier and go have fun. Now of course if you want to do some kind of stock class autocross racing then I completely understand the need for a manual trans. But if that's the case I would sell the car and look for a 4+3 car with the Z51 option.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by IHBD
Don't even think about it.

Buy a different car with the transmission you want already in it.
Great advise.
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IHBD
Don't even think about it.

Buy a different car with the transmission you want already in it.

agree. typically if a person gets a steal of a deal on a car, but say its thevwrong trans or engine or whatever, i recommend that they clean up and sell the car the acquired cheap, for a gain, and roll that into the car they want.

thats actually easier snd cleaner and takes less work
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 03:33 PM
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I just took the 4+3 out of my 85 (to swap in the ZF.) Nothing was wrong with it aside from slight leaking at the side cover. While I had no major complaints about the 4+3, I can not for the life of me figure why someone would go to the trouble to install that transmission instead of either a ZF or one of the new TKX ones available as a complete swap kit.
The 4+3 overdrive unit has some unobtainium parts that mean once it's broken, that's the end of that transmission.
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Originally Posted by Mixednuttz
I just took the 4+3 out of my 85 (to swap in the ZF.) Nothing was wrong with it aside from slight leaking at the side cover. While I had no major complaints about the 4+3, I can not for the life of me figure why someone would go to the trouble to install that transmission instead of either a ZF or one of the new TKX ones available as a complete swap kit.
The 4+3 overdrive unit has some unobtainium parts that mean once it's broken, that's the end of that transmission.

Sorry, but I find that that's not entirely true about the parts not being available. I've owned my 1985 4+3 for 17 years now and have never found any problems finding any parts I need.
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Originally Posted by IHBD
While the above statement is true, it can be inferred that you have NOT "needed" to find a carrier bearing or direct clutch thrust washer in the recent past. These parts fail, and if you can't obtain replacements because none exist, you have a transmission-less car.
That is what I was referring to. As far as the 4 speed portion: it's just a Super T10. Those parts should be pretty easy to find.
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