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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 07:21 AM
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Which is easiest to tune and upkeep, Q-Jet, Carter-Edelbrock, or Holley and any experiences with the Chinese knock-offs? Going carb today and not looking back. The last carbed car I had was a 1978 Olds Delta 88 with the factory Quadrajet that I never had to touch but was totally stock, before that a 302 Mustang II with a used Holley 650 vacuum secondary but that was 30 years ago. Ran good though. tbh never changed jetting on any 4 barrel car carb hence the topic.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 07:50 AM
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I've had Q-jets, and Edelbrocks but no Holleys. My experience was mainly with Edelbrocks. They will run good out of the box, then you can "tune" them if you want with different rods, but I never saw a difference in 0 to 60 times, and I bested my fuel injected Camaro's fuel milage. I had a very expensive rebuild done on a Q-jet, it was fine as delivered. The latest carb I bought is an Edelbrock from a pawn shop. All I did was lower the idle, it runs perfect. Starts instantly, electric choke opens fully after about 5 minutes, and settles into a smooth idle (with a admittedly small factory cam)
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:10 AM
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I've always liked Q-jets for street use. The off-idle and part-throttle response is great as well as fuel economy when you want it. If you have a pretty modded car and race alot then I would go with a Holley double pumper. Jet changes are easier and good parts availability but you can forget economy. So, Holleys for tuneability and racing, but QJs on a mild to stock engine that spends most of it's time on the street. Set it and forget it.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:19 AM
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Guess I should have added the engine specs, stock 1984 350 that may be replaced with a 383 in the future. Might put in an RV cam before the 383. No intake manifold committed to yet, looking at a high rise or air gap unless that'll hurt off-idle response noticably.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:29 AM
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Q-jet... holleys are nice but not needed for that setup. Find one set up for a mid 70s vette, it should be about dialed for that engine.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 09:28 AM
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Stay away from the “new” Chinese knock off. See Lars synopsis of it in the C3 section.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 10:44 AM
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Edelbroks are redesigned webbers. They are very friendly as far as tuning goes. Holleys are easy, but to a novice they can be tricky to tune.
If you get an air gap, you will not fit it under the hood. A low rise intake and a dropped base air cleaner 'might' fit under the hood.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 12:24 PM
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In my experience.... Tuning Q-jets is a lost art, Edlebrocks are really good out of the box for street use but suffer performance wise higher in the rpm range, Holley, easiest to tune for power but the worst on fuel mileage.

When I had my SBC S10 Blazer I modified the throttle linkage on a Holley and an Edlebrock to easily accept my throttle cable. The Edelbrock was for daily driving and tooling around and when I wanted to race or take it to the track, 10 mins to swap on the Holley. There was a 2-3 tenths difference between the two and that was with the same AFR at WOT.

Now if you could get a good Q-Jet with a proper tune, they are the best of both worlds and man do they sound good! But figuring one out on your own if it isn't right out of the box can be really tough. You might have to find a Q-jet guru and send it off with really good specs about your combo to get it right.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 01:43 PM
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I like the Street Demon carb. They say you can swap one in place of the other 4bbls within a half hour.
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Originally Posted by FostersPerformance
Edelbroks are redesigned webbers. They are very friendly as far as tuning goes. Holleys are easy, but to a novice they can be tricky to tune.
If you get an air gap, you will not fit it under the hood. A low rise intake and a dropped base air cleaner 'might' fit under the hood.
I'm putting a 22 inch tapered from low in front to rear 3.5 inch high scoop on. I have this intake in my cart but can someone tell if the runners are too high? Seller doesn't show a sideways photo.

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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 06:22 PM
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I think that the choice is obvious: Predator carb. No doubt about it.





Why would anyone run anything else!?
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 06:56 PM
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Meh. Sidedrafts sucking air in right over the exhaust manifolds or headers would be best... haha


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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
I think that the choice is obvious: Predator carb. No doubt about it.





Why would anyone run anything else!?
Wow, it's been awhile since I've seen one of those.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage Hermit
I'm putting a 22 inch tapered from low in front to rear 3.5 inch high scoop on. I have this intake in my cart but can someone tell if the runners are too high? Seller doesn't show a sideways photo.
What brand is it? Also I see that it has no heat crossover which can lead to drivability problems till the engine warms up, especially if you drive it in colder weather.
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 78blueta
Wow, it's been awhile since I've seen one of those.
Me too, only seen them in Car Craft and Hot Rod back in the 80's.
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What brand is it?
An off-brand.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Du...k/185514230239
Also I see that it has no heat crossover which can lead to drivability problems till the engine warms up, especially if you drive it in colder weather.
True but I'm on the Texas gulf coast where summer heat is an issue with carb percolating.
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Originally Posted by IHBD
Unfortunately, it fails the "easy to tune" criteria miserably. That setup costs about 4 times with the OP paid for his car. Sure is pretty.
4 times at least! I worked at an independent sports car - motorcycle shop long ago and had hell once synching the Webers on a customer 289 Cobra. Found out a backfire previous to that bent one of the throttle shaft.

On the earlier story of a big block 65 Impala engine explosion; a friend of the shop put a Mazda rotary in a Triumph Spitfire and during the first start it flooded raw gas into the muffler which exploded and lifted the car a foot off the ground blowing gravel everywhere!
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Originally Posted by Garage Hermit
Mazda rotary in a Triumph Spitfire and during the first start it flooded raw gas into the muffler which exploded and lifted the car a foot off the ground blowing gravel everywhere!
That's what Mazdas do...or did back then.
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I could put two of these with polished Webers on a polished 2x4 tunnel ram and really be looking cool.

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