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So I'm doin a bunch of research here for building my car (all while trying to keep it from fallin apart until I have the money to build it), and I'm thinking of building my own 350 for it. Will any old sbc fit inside my 84 or are there constraints? I'm new to the American car thing, I've been living in the diesel truck and Japanese sports car world for a bit now. I'd love to do a mild 350 build with a junkyard block and do it on the cheap (This article has me really thinkin hard about it https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/10...-engine-build/), so will any old sbc fit without issue? Thanks!
Up to late 1986 for corvette all SBC were two piece rear main crankshaft seal. From late 86 to 96 they are one piece rear main seal and were roller lifter engines.
For your 84 I suggest any 350 prior to 1986.
Awesome thanks! and I imagine all my accessories will bolt up fine?
Originally Posted by jazfe
Up to late 1986 for corvette all SBC were two piece rear main crankshaft seal. From late 86 to 96 they are one piece rear main seal and were roller lifter engines.
For your 84 I suggest any 350 prior to 1986.
Awesome thanks! and I imagine all my accessories will bolt up fine?
Very little differences in the SBC from the 50's to the 80's. There were a lot of changes in the heads but mounting holes didn't change much. Your front engine accessories should mount no problem.
I have a 4 bolt main L82 in my 85 and for the most part
sbc's are similar. My oil pan is different, pickup and dipstick on other side. All the 85 stuff bolted up to the 1975 engine.
I recommend going the other direction on a budget build and modernizing to a 1 piece rear seal block. You didn't mention if you have an Automatic or Manual Trans so you will need a new Flex Plate or Flywheel. Buy a Vortec Truck SBC anything SBC used is selling dirt cheap these days. My Machinist was telling me how these blocks were machined with more modern equipment and had electronic control and they just don't wear out like the blocks of the past. If your building a some what modern engine you want a Hyd Roller Cam and thats what Vortecs came with You might be able to reuse the Lifters and if not they are cheap compared to the aftermarket ones you will need for a one piece Block. The Vortec Heads are also some of the best GM produced but they crack easy and you will need a specific Intake Manifold. Or bolt on a set of Aluminum Heads. You will want the Oil Pan that came with it. I recently built one of these using a 383 rotating assembly.
The later block (638 or 880 casting) is the way to go. Factory lifter retention and support for a roller cam if you want, better RMS, and overall better tolerances on the blocks in a lot of cases. The only oddball thing about the "vortec" blocks is some of them have shorter bores. Not an issue on a 350 but on a 383 could be a problem. Ive never come across one like that but there are multiple reports they exist... if you find a good running low milage vortec 350 block from a 96-00 truck you could have the heads modified to accept the older bolt pattern and just bolt the CFI stuff on and go (if you plan to keep it CFI) the cam is close enough, so the ECM will work fine and everything else should be able to be bolted on. Or just swap heads. Some later 880 blocks don't have the water pump bypass hole if I recall correctly as well. And then just find a stock replacement oil pan from like an 87 vette.
There is a lot of info being thrown out here.
Any sbc will physically fit. It is pretty much the same engine from 1955 to, at least to 1991, possibly later. There have been a few changes over the years, such as factory roller cams, the switch from two piece crank seal to one piece, and intake manifold bolt angle I think are the major ones, so you'll want to be sure all your parts will fit together.
Like they said, 96-99 trucks and vans used roller cam, the truck pan will fit and they also have the good PM rods. Everything bolts on the same. My 96 truck block has four bolt mains too. Millions of chevy trucks and vans were made with these motors. I see no reason to use an early block.
Like they said, 96-99 trucks and vans used roller cam, the truck pan will fit and they also have the good PM rods. Everything bolts on the same. My 96 truck block has four bolt mains too. Millions of chevy trucks and vans were made with these motors. I see no reason to use an early block.
That's whats confusing about Chevys way of naming the different engines. The Vortec name was used on both the Vortec headed traditional smallblock as well as the LS versions untill production of the smallblock ended. The LS got powdered metal rods with cracked cap, the traditional smallblock got forged rods with machined caps.
One other thing about smallblock vortecs among all the other good information previously mentioned: Yhey have a mechanical fuel pump boss but the hole for the pump rod is not drilled. I just use a low psi electric pump for my carbureted vehicles.
Thanks for all the info guys this has been great. I'm going to save up a bit for a new OD because of course mine decides to start going out when I want to build an engine but once that's taken over I'll start piecing a junker motor together, this has been a huge help!
That's whats confusing about Chevys way of naming the different engines. The Vortec name was used on both the Vortec headed traditional smallblock as well as the LS versions untill production of the smallblock ended. The LS got powdered metal rods with cracked cap, the traditional smallblock got forged rods with machined caps.
One other thing about smallblock vortecs among all the other good information previously mentioned: Yhey have a mechanical fuel pump boss but the hole for the pump rod is not drilled. I just use a low psi electric pump for my carbureted vehicles.
Are the L31 rods forged? I could've swore the ones I pulled when we rebuilt my c3500 were the PM ones. Unless that was an HD only thing.
Are the L31 rods forged? I could've swore the ones I pulled when we rebuilt my c3500 were the PM ones. Unless that was an HD only thing.
You're right, they're powdered metal. Looks like I'm the one who's confused. I don't rebuild these motors, just install them in old trucks mostly. Probably a good thing I don't open them up, LOL!