what are everyones thoughts on NOS? I really don't know a whole heck of a lot on the subject... is it better then having a turbo or supercharger?

:banghead: :nono:

 

I wouldn't say better. I would however say much cheaper. N20 is very cheap horsepower. I run a 150 shot, and I love it. Total install with MSD box and purge kit was 2k. I don't know for sure, but I don't think you could even buy a supercharger or turbo for that much. Let alone the install. All three are equally stressing on the components within the motor, however with N20, if something goes wrong, there's usually no second chance. :nonod:

 

Look in the C4 Forced Induction/nitrous section.
The two are completely different.
:steering:

 

They do the basically the same thing in completely different ways... It kinda makes me nervous... but Its very nice :yesnod:..... Cost/HP its unbeatable....

 

This is a very subjective topic. I personally like, and use nitrous. If you want to put a small shot on a good running engine, I say do it. You could probably do it for around $600.00. If you want all the goodies, then it will cost more. The nice part is that you can start small and continue to upgrade the system while using it. With a blower, you have a big cost upfront. If you can fork over the cash, the blower or the turbo's have their benefits. I used a 150 shot on a stock bottom L98 until it had 112,000 miles on it. (Just food for thought)

 

I love the spray! Too bad the quarter mile runs out so quick! :D The only thing I would suggest is to not cut corners and do it right. You could end up paying around 2k for a full system, but it's worth it if you have all the safety equipment installed.

 

I know i'm gonna get cooked here.......but NOS is a waste of money and dangerous. Rationale....waste of money=you have to keep buying more when it runs low........dangerous=if your ever in an accident and the bottle get damaged my as well kiss your azz goodbye when it ignites.

A supercharger forces air in the engine, yes it cost more, but never needs recharging, and won't blow the car to smitherines if involved in a serious accident.

Again this is my opinion, I thought about both and looked at all the elements around the two. Supercharger takes it without thinking twice.

Kitt

 

Nitrous oxide itself is NOT flammable. The only danger in an accident would be if the bottle valve were knocked off. And, this should not be a problem if anchored securely. As for recharging, yes, I need to go fill my bottle when it's empty. However a plus side of N20 would be abuse of the motor in more controlled situations. Superchargers and turbos are a constant abuse of internal components. I can turn mine on when needed.


[Modified by 95AquaC4, 9:57 PM 2/7/2003]

 

I do agree by itself, but it is an oxidizer and if a flame is/were present, random spark, or any other condition, could be deadly. I agree if anchored shouldn't pose a problem. Still more of a risk being inside the car with you, i'd pass.......like a side its only my opinion nothing more. As far as internal engine damage, unless your all over it all the time, its always in a vacuum state so where would the internal damage come from your describing when in a vacuum state and not in a boost mode?

 

I didn't really mean internal damage, I just meant that if my bottle's off, and I'm hard on the throttle, it's merely being hard on the throttle. If your supercharged and your hard on the throttle, your boosting internal pressures are you not? There is no on and off. My "abuse" is short term, "boosts" of abuse. It can be either on or off.

 

:iagree: .....again I say both have pros and cons.....I guess cuz i'm lazy I'd want it on demand vs having to switch it in. All of your points are valid.....comes down to preference......... :) :yesnod: :lol: :cheers:

kitt

 

:cheers: :seeya

 

Once again, if you have the money for a blower motor and all the goodies, then go for it. If you are a cheap bastard like me, then nitrous could be a solution. I've raced cars with twice the money into the motor than I have, and beat them. Personally, I think nitrous has its place. Call it a time bomb or whatever, but nitrous works, that's the bottom line.

 

A good friend of mine and engine builder says "Nitrous is for people who don't know how to make power on the motor "

I don't necessarily agree with the statement, but an interesting view never the less.

If you run it.... just be smart and you'll be okay.

good luck
Beach Bum

 

Dont like NOS, not unless the bottom end is built to handle it. (forged)

 

Nitrous is a blast. I am a nitrous veteran and junkie. Hey Kitt, I'll race you the the 10's. Let's see who gets there first! There is no more fun per dollar on earth! Go for it! BH

 

When I get my supercharger you have a deal..... :leaving:

 

I bought my first nitrous setup when there were only 2 choices of kit manufacturers. First, as far as being flamable, you can hold a match in front of the valve and it will blow out every time. The bottle holds 800 or 900 pounds pressure if I remember right and in an accident that broke off the valve, the bottle won't take off like a rocket like an oxygen tank would with a broken valve. An unstrapped down bottle could put quite a dent in your skull, though. Engine damage could quickly occur during a lean condition. I once had an under carb plate system that ran lean on fuel, backfired, and cut the whole throttle body out of the Holley like a large cutting torch leaving a 4" by 4" hole. My bad, for trying to use a stock pump. Lucky for me, no engine damage. I had a lot of molten aluminum to clean out of the intake. On a direct port system I once had one fuel nozzle clog totally leaning out one cylinder. I instantly shutdown the moment I heard a backfire, again saving the engine. But the spark plug looked like someone torched off the end. Lean conditions can also be detrimental to a supercharged or turbo'ed engine. But you have to deal with combustion heat here. A nitrous engine is forgiving on combustion heat. My 406 ran 12 to 1 compression with a heavy dose of nitrous and never a ping. (My MSD would retard the timing 8 degrees during nitrous activation. But you would do the same for a pressurized engine). Turbo/supercharged engines do better with reduced compression. I was told nitrous is softer on the bottom end verses a turbo/supercharged system. So, all in all it worked for me. My C3 was running 12.1's on radials in '84. I kept 3 bottles available just in case. I tried it once on my TPI C4 but wet systems tended to puddle and the backfire scared me not to mention the cost of a replacement MAF. BTW, early nos systems used medical nitrous. Made you very popular at parties.

1976 406, TH400 3000stall switchpitch, 4.11

 

Look at all the opinions :lol: Maybe thats why they make cars different colors too, huh?

I love mine on my otherwise lightly modded '87 (a 100 shot). It took an otherwise bland torquey motor and allowed me to get there quicker.......a lot quicker! :reddevil

It's like anything else tho, if you beat on it, you'll break it. If you don't you won't.