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From: Defending the US Constitution in Northern CA
C4 F45 adjustable shock swap help
I usually work on C5s and I have a customer that wants to take his "Active handling" and Cockpit adjustable shocks off and put my coil over adjustable shock setup on. How do I simulate to the computer that shocks are still there so the car will not go into reduced power mode.
#007 is equipped with F45 Real Time Damping (RTD). While RTD was a neat gimmick when I bought the car, reality is that the only time I moved the dial in the last 4 years was to switch from "Perf" to "Tour" when drag racing. The F45 RTD shocks were manufactured by Delphi. Unlike Bilstein who offers a rebuild service for the FX3 shocks ($55/shock), the Delphi units are "Throwaway". A review of the cost of replacing these shocks (~$600 was the best price I could find), indicated the gimmick was no longer very attractive. With that in mind, I settled on '90 Z51 Bilstein shocks. Having previously owned a '90 Z51 car, I somewhat knew what to expect relative to ride. The Z51 shocks combined with the F45 springs (same as the base suspension springs), provides a ride that's controlled in both rebound and compression, but not harsh. While not a "9/10s" solution like adjustable Koni's or a "100%" solution like coil-overs, it is a nice upgrade to a base suspension or F45 equipped car.
For those who still have the original shocks, I highly recommend checking them. Most likely they'll need replacement. A simple test is to remove one of the front shocks and see if you can compress it by hand. Two of mine had 0 rebound and the other two were easily compressed.
In order to avoid setting the "SERVICE RIDE CONTROL" (SRC) Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL), I snipped the connector ends from the old F45 shocks. I modified each connector to accept a 220 ohm resistor and then plugged them into the female connectors that are part of the chassis wiring harness at each corner. No MIL and a factory wiring appearance to all but the most astute observer :-) I did have a brief bout with confusion (some may say it's not brief [grin]). While checking the wiring modifications, I turned the key to "RUN" and got the SRC MIL (!). I pulled the SRC codes and found DTCs indicating out of range position sensors. After a moment of thought, I realized that the codes were set because I had yet to install the new shocks and the suspension was "sagging". I temporarily propped the suspension, turned the ignition key to "RUN" and the problem was solved.
From: Defending the US Constitution in Northern CA
Re: C4 F45 adjustable shock swap help (96GS#007)
Hey you guys are the BOMB :thumbs:
so I use a 220 ohm resistor.
On the C5's they only need a 15 ohm.
Thanks for all the help.
If either on of you ever want to trade up to adjustable valved shocks or Adjustable valve/adjustable ride height shocks. Just shoot me an email and I'll hook you up.
I've applied to become a CF supporting vendor so I should be online soon.
I just pulled the fuse in the ABS compartment and no SRC light since I changed the shocks about 2 years ago...
As a test I pulled the fuse and my speedo display started flashing "SYS" and triggering nusiance codes in the CCM :(
The resistors cost cost me $0.50 and I simply inserted them into the open connector ends. Not cutting, no splicing, just a little electrical tape to hold them in place.
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Re: C4 F45 adjustable shock swap help (96GS#007)
As a test I pulled the fuse and my speedo display started flashing "SYS" and triggering nusiance codes in the CCM :(
The resistors cost cost me $0.50 and I simply inserted them into the open connector ends. Not cutting, no splicing, just a little electrical tape to hold them in place.
:cheers:
Hmmm, interesting...
I've never seen the SYS in my display, now I'm wondering why...
I took mine out, replaced them with Bilstein Z51s and never jumped anything. Never have had a problem.
Saturday I got the "service ride control message". Somehow the ride control switch got moved from the far right selection when I was cleaning. I moved it back and let the car sit for a while. The code cleared and never came back. Weird.
Hmmm. I'll have to try that. Come to think of it, my switch has never come off the PERF setting. A quick look at the owner's manual states that if the switch gets "in between" settings then it could trigger the "service ride control" light as well.
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