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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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According to NHRA rules, if a convertible breaks out of the 14's, it needs a rollbar.

The Sled should have No Problem doing that, but I don't want to butcher the car with a rollbar/cage. Being 6'6", an SCCA legal rollbar would make the convertible top inoperative, and/or make the car un liveable as a street car.

I've heard rumors that the C4 hardtop is a positive structural member, has undergone rollover testing and might classify the car as a coupe, bringing the performance envelope down to a 10.99 (which the car won't ever reach).

I cannot find anything to back up those rumors, can you guys help?

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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Your rumors are correct. A properly installed C4 hardtop will allow you to run as a coupe!

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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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Ya, but I'm looking for some written corroboration...I can't show up to Bandimere, turn a 13.8 and tell them that a rumour said it was alright. ;)

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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Ya, but I'm looking for some written corroboration...
I don't think you're going to find any.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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Default Re: C4 hardtop = coupe? (RocketSled)

I had a question about drive shaft loops for an IHRA track...I went to their website, found the head of tech and emailed him..got a reply, printed it and put it in my glovebox..try this with the NHRA website...worth a shot...good luck
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Default Re: C4 hardtop = coupe? (RocketSled)

I am not sure about the hard top quesiton - but I am almost 100% certain that the NHRA requires a 5-point (most people just do 6) for ANY car that runs 11.99 or quicker. IHRA I beleive requires the same bar at 11.50.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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I had a question about drive shaft loops for an IHRA track...I went to their website, found the head of tech and emailed him..got a reply, printed it and put it in my glovebox..try this with the NHRA website...worth a shot...good luck
What did he say if you don't mind me asking. That c-beam has always looked like it would contain any driveshaft explosion to me.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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What did he say if you don't mind me asking. That c-beam has always looked like it would contain any driveshaft explosion to me.
It won't quite contain it to their satisfaction, but $10 worth of metal strap (1" by .25 inch) wrapped and bolted to the C-beam WILL.

My car, at altitude will probably turn mid 13's. Fast enough to be a problem with the ragtop, helmet, and driveline loop, but I don't think it'd need the 5 pt harness yet.
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A driveline loop is only needed for 13s if you are running slicks.
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Gotta bring down those 2.1 60' times ya know! (and I've gotta do SOMETHING with those spare 16" 86 wheels...)
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W00t! From the NHRA:

Mike,
if you permanently attach the hard top to the car. it will no longer be considered a convertible. the top can not be easily removed to be considered a coupe. then if it runs 11.99 to 10.00 it will require a rollbar. Thanks Rick
Six bolts in back and two up front seem pretty permanent to me!
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ttt (figured some of you primetime folks might be interested)
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Default Re: C4 hardtop = coupe? (RocketSled)

We go thru this all the time. Due to the success of our Corvette Challenge series, an awful lot of hardtops have been sold in NJ(or rather to NJ members).

The hardtop will let you get to 12.00 without the need for a rollbar.
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