Everyone needs to read these....
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From: St Marys PA
Everyone needs to read these....
These are a collection of articles that I have been pushing for about 6 months. ANYONE even considering tuning should read them. You will be enlightened I'm sure.
I have been pounding this over there for 6 months and nearly was booted several times from the boards for disagreeing with the mods and tuning gods :D They are finally starting to see it my way :cheers:
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=174742
The one mod and I will try to consolidate the information into one post. I think it would be a very valid sticky here and would help people sift through the misconceptions etc surrounding the MAF system.
[Modified by ski_dwn_it, 10:08 AM 4/22/2003]
I have been pounding this over there for 6 months and nearly was booted several times from the boards for disagreeing with the mods and tuning gods :D They are finally starting to see it my way :cheers:
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=174742
The one mod and I will try to consolidate the information into one post. I think it would be a very valid sticky here and would help people sift through the misconceptions etc surrounding the MAF system.
[Modified by ski_dwn_it, 10:08 AM 4/22/2003]
Melting Slicks
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From: Ca.
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (ski_dwn_it)
These are a collection of articles that I have been pushing for about 6 months. ANYONE even considering tuning should read them. You will be enlightened I'm sure.
I have been pounding this over there for 6 months and nearly was booted several times from the boards for disagreeing with the mods and tuning gods :D They are finally starting to see it my way :cheers:
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=174742
The one mod and I will try to consolidate the information into one post. I think it would be a very valid sticky here and would help people sift through the misconceptions etc surrounding the MAF system.
[Modified by ski_dwn_it, 10:08 AM 4/22/2003]
I have been pounding this over there for 6 months and nearly was booted several times from the boards for disagreeing with the mods and tuning gods :D They are finally starting to see it my way :cheers:
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=174742
The one mod and I will try to consolidate the information into one post. I think it would be a very valid sticky here and would help people sift through the misconceptions etc surrounding the MAF system.
[Modified by ski_dwn_it, 10:08 AM 4/22/2003]
Yea, go ski! BTW-I just couldn't help the comment about a write up on swapping to maf...... :lol:
[Modified by drive it, 12:45 PM 4/22/2003]
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From: Framingham MA
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (ski_dwn_it)
Boy you have been busy posting this weekend... I agree with you about the MAF, too many people are too quick to ditch it. I am planning to use a MAF with a mild supercharger I will see how that goes, everyone over their pretty much say use a 749 or a FMU & 165. I think it can be done with just a 165. The 3rd ge3n is still a greta resource for PROM burning, I read it almost daily trying to absorb as much info as possible.
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Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (dgoodhue)
Yeah there is no doubt there is a wealth of information there, and some VERY smart people to boot. But I think their their own worst enemies. They listen too much to one or two people because they are afraid to get beat down. I threw off the gloves and said bring on the beatings.
There are some of them that are pretty cool though. I think the majority of people over there and here want more of a MAF tuning resource to pull from.
I think you will be fine with the MAF and a SC. There is only one thing you have to remember, as long as you can get the AFR you want, then you are fine. Its like jetting a carb, only you have more control.
There are some of them that are pretty cool though. I think the majority of people over there and here want more of a MAF tuning resource to pull from.
I think you will be fine with the MAF and a SC. There is only one thing you have to remember, as long as you can get the AFR you want, then you are fine. Its like jetting a carb, only you have more control.
Melting Slicks
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From: Ca.
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (dgoodhue)
[QUOTE] I think it can be done with just a 165. [QUOTE]
Hmmm, that one I'm not sure... I ended up going with a cartech fmu. Check out http://www.cartech.net
Either way just make sure you use a wideband....
Hmmm, that one I'm not sure... I ended up going with a cartech fmu. Check out http://www.cartech.net
Either way just make sure you use a wideband....
Pro
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From: Taxahoma
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (ski_dwn_it)
I was tired of the bickering and was about to say a few things that would have probably got me booted as well. Looks like we have a good thing going now though. Good job on finally getting through some thick skulls over there. Would be curious to know what the mod emailed you, I assume threatening to kick you off because you dared to question the tuning gods :lol: Not a single bit of bickering and all helpfull comments, gota love it.
Racer
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From: Willow Springs IL
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (Black87c4)
:iagree:
I agree with you too. I haven't seen a blown LT1/LS1 system that couldn't benefit from a MAF. Speed density can work, but why not use all your tools available? Way to keep your dukes up!! :cool:
I agree with you too. I haven't seen a blown LT1/LS1 system that couldn't benefit from a MAF. Speed density can work, but why not use all your tools available? Way to keep your dukes up!! :cool:
Melting Slicks
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From: Portsmouth VA
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (Mr Cowl Hood)
i'm surprised to see the debate about SD versus MAF. way back when i had a rustang (i know, i know), everybody that did anything to their car wanted to switch to MAF from SD. the SD was said to be much less resilient to engine mods.
i believe Phil Tobin/Hoover ran mid 10's with MAF...
i believe Phil Tobin/Hoover ran mid 10's with MAF...
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From: Framingham MA
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (drive it)
Hmmm, that one I'm not sure... I ended up going with a cartech fmu. Check out http://www.cartech.net
Either way just make sure you use a wideband....
Either way just make sure you use a wideband....
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From: Living in the Hartland
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (ski_dwn_it)
This looks like an interesting place to hang out. I'll be hanging out some in the future since I will be adding MAF tpi to my vette.
Drifting
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From: Norcross GA
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (ski_dwn_it)
Thanks Ski. I was never a big fan of SD. Some love it. It's just not my thing. Yes is has it's benifits, but they they don't out-weight the drawbacks, for me anyway.
I have seen some of the fast MAF approaches, but still think there is a simpler approach.
I have seen some of the fast MAF approaches, but still think there is a simpler approach.
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From: Suagus Ca
Re: Everyone needs to read these.... (Black87c4)
I was tired of the bickering and was about to say a few things that would have probably got me booted as well. Looks like we have a good thing going now though. Good job on finally getting through some thick skulls over there. Would be curious to know what the mod emailed you, I assume threatening to kick you off because you dared to question the tuning gods :lol: Not a single bit of bickering and all helpfull comments, gota love it.
I got fed up and told them to delete my user account (Need4speed).
It seems to be the same people that ruined the GMECM mailing list.
Anyway, nice site you folks have here :thumbs:
Ken