Anyone using Rhoads Lifters?
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Le Mans Master
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From: Shelton CT
Anyone using Rhoads Lifters?
I remember reading up on these a while back, and I will be replacing my lifters in a while for new ones on my '85 hydraulic camm-ed motor as I step up to a better cam to go with the superram setup.
Anyone actually use these? I heard they make some extra clicking noises, but supposedly add quite a bit of low-end torque and smooth idle out on 'hairy' cams...
Thanks for any info ... :cheers:
Anyone actually use these? I heard they make some extra clicking noises, but supposedly add quite a bit of low-end torque and smooth idle out on 'hairy' cams...
Thanks for any info ... :cheers:
Racer
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (MrNuke)
Convert over to a roller cam. Then you can run the LPE 219. I think LPE sells the retro rollers for about $300. The only other thing you need is a cam button. LPE has a kit for around $35.
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Le Mans Master
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (Ray383)
I am planning to convert to a 219 based LPE cam for my 350 later this year, but I am not sure they make a set of rhoades lifters for roller cams..
I am just wondering if anyone actually is using or has used it...
I am just wondering if anyone actually is using or has used it...
Drifting
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (MrNuke)
I would never put those in any vehicle.....the technology is out of the 50s basically they bleed down fast in the lower rpm range, effectively reducing the duration of the cam.....but they clatter like poopie !! ........then when you get the rpms up, they start pumping up and function like a normal hydraulic lifter
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (Alex D)
I would never put those in any vehicle.....the technology is out of the 50s basically they bleed down fast in the lower rpm range, effectively reducing the duration of the cam.....but they clatter like poopie !! ........then when you get the rpms up, they start pumping up and function like a normal hydraulic lifter
Racer
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (MrNuke)
I have used them and yes they do tick, I used them in the first engine I modified twenty years ago. They sound like an engine with mechanical tappets at tickover, however my headers and exhaust masked any noise from them. Never had a problem with them, they worked well and made the over cammed, under compressed mismatch I created a daily driver. :steering:
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Drifting
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From: Houston, TX
Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (Pete89)
There was a thread posted a few weeks ago. A Forum member in Houston put them in his 85 or 86 and car ran terrible. The ticking noise was triggering the knock sensor and kept retarding the timing.
Racer
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (MrNuke)
Yep, I used them in a couple different engines years ago. They did everything they were supposed to do. The last engine was a 406 with 11 to 1 C.R. and appx. 300 degree cam. It sounded like solids at idle, idled smoothly at 500rpm in drive and was at full pump up by 3000. The problem was with that much compression, it made the cam duration too small and really hard to start when hot. So Comp Cams ground a special cam for me with additional overlap to bleed off some of this cylinder pressure and everything worked out fine.
Drifting
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (MrNuke)
Crane makes a set simular to these that I have used. I needed to tone down an engine that I put in a van so that I picked up a little low end torque and vacuum for the brakes. The Crane lifters are not noisy like the Rhoades.
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Le Mans Master
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Re: Anyone using Rhoads Lifters? (DON M)
Yea I read up on the crane cams' equivalent Fast Bleed lifters, but heard many bad stories and problem with them causing detonation down low aswell as having to be re-adjusted often, and still have some noticeable extra noise. None of which I have read with the rhoads... Just rtying to get som eopinions before changing over.. :lurk:
