Somebody has to know
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Drifting
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From: Las Cruces NM
Somebody has to know
I know you guys are holding out on me. Somebody has to have had their sport seats apart, either to recover or repair the bladders or whatever.
I just got really curious and pulled the back cushion off. Here's what I discovered.
1.The staples that hold the leather to the plastic shell are completely baffling. I don't know how in the world these are done.
2.These seats have adjustable bolsters. Which makes me wonder, if the seats have 3 controls, back angle, lumbar and the bolsters, why are their only 2 switches on the bolster console?
3. The 3 lines to the bladder got disconnected when I was pulling it all apart, so I have no idea which goes where, but it doesn't really matter for the time being since there's no pump for them anyway.
4.And after looking for the bladder, all I found was a thousand pieces of brittle rubber. No part of the bladder was bigger than a quarter inch or so.
This is all very funny. Glad I got these for free.
Does anyone have any answers to any of these?
Chris
I just got really curious and pulled the back cushion off. Here's what I discovered.
1.The staples that hold the leather to the plastic shell are completely baffling. I don't know how in the world these are done.
2.These seats have adjustable bolsters. Which makes me wonder, if the seats have 3 controls, back angle, lumbar and the bolsters, why are their only 2 switches on the bolster console?
3. The 3 lines to the bladder got disconnected when I was pulling it all apart, so I have no idea which goes where, but it doesn't really matter for the time being since there's no pump for them anyway.
4.And after looking for the bladder, all I found was a thousand pieces of brittle rubber. No part of the bladder was bigger than a quarter inch or so.
This is all very funny. Glad I got these for free.
Does anyone have any answers to any of these?
Chris
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Re: Somebody has to know (okinawa86vette)
The "staples" are called hog rings. It is a special staple used for upholstery. You will need hog ring pliers to refasten the leather to the frame using hog ring staples.
I am emailing you a schematic of the sport seats and the corresponding legend.
[Modified by Oldman, 7:01 PM 5/19/2003]
I am emailing you a schematic of the sport seats and the corresponding legend.
[Modified by Oldman, 7:01 PM 5/19/2003]
Drifting
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Re: Somebody has to know (okinawa86vette)
:lol: I pulled mine apart a few years ago, and recovered them.
1. I agree they look impossible to do. A shop told me they use a very powerful air staple-gun at the factory. I used some interior screws ; 2 on each side,and painted them to blend in.
2. I don't know.
3. I have pumps but no bladders. The little hoses go no where.
4. See #3.
Recovering wasn't too bad, but time consumeing. :chevy
1. I agree they look impossible to do. A shop told me they use a very powerful air staple-gun at the factory. I used some interior screws ; 2 on each side,and painted them to blend in.
2. I don't know.
3. I have pumps but no bladders. The little hoses go no where.
4. See #3.
Recovering wasn't too bad, but time consumeing. :chevy
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Drifting
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Re: Somebody has to know (Curveit)
First, thank you, oldman, for sending the shop manual diagrams. My shop manual is somewhere on the pacific ocean on its way stateside right now. The staples are actually staples, I wasn't talking about the hog rings the hold parts of the covers to the frame in the foam. The side bolsters are stapled, not hog ringed to the plastic seat shell.
To Curveit, thanks for the idea of using interior screws. I'll probably use a couple more per side for good measure, maybe 4 or 6.
I may just say screw the lumbar adjust. The seats seam comfortable without it anyway. I really wanted the bolster adjust, for auto-xing. My trans am had lumbar adjust and I kept it deflated completely the whole time. If I end up hooking up the lumbar, I'm going to need the bladders as well as the pumps because mine's missing.
I recovered the std seats in my '86 and I agree that it wasn't hard, but just took about 2 or 3 hours a seat. These look a little easier, being that there's a ton less hog rings being that the bolsters don't require any. But the staples had me lost. I'll try the screws. My seats are black, so I won't even need to paint them.
Thanks for the help, guys.
Chris
To Curveit, thanks for the idea of using interior screws. I'll probably use a couple more per side for good measure, maybe 4 or 6.
I may just say screw the lumbar adjust. The seats seam comfortable without it anyway. I really wanted the bolster adjust, for auto-xing. My trans am had lumbar adjust and I kept it deflated completely the whole time. If I end up hooking up the lumbar, I'm going to need the bladders as well as the pumps because mine's missing.
I recovered the std seats in my '86 and I agree that it wasn't hard, but just took about 2 or 3 hours a seat. These look a little easier, being that there's a ton less hog rings being that the bolsters don't require any. But the staples had me lost. I'll try the screws. My seats are black, so I won't even need to paint them.
Thanks for the help, guys.
Chris
