C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

TPS function?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 10, 2003 | 03:58 PM
  #1  
devilfish's Avatar
devilfish
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 1
From: Sweden/Stockholm
Default TPS function?

What else beside telling when its timt to go WOT. Does the TPS?
Arent the fuel maps based on vaccume?

THanks
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2003 | 04:38 PM
  #2  
VetNutJim's Avatar
VetNutJim
Safety Car
 
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 3,651
Likes: 5
From: Atlantis
Cruise-In I Veteran
Default Re: TPS function? (devilfish)

Hmmmm let me take a shot at this one... with my limited knowledge I'll hit as much as I can.

Fuel injection suffers from the same fate as a carb when you pop open the TB butterflys the system needs to enrich the mixture so you don't get a hesitation. The TPS supplys part of that information to the ECM using a circuit that looks at change in TPS over time.

The next function is the Decellerate fuel mixture. With your foot off the gas the TPS sends the reference signal to the ECM so it knows when to use a modification of the fuel tables during decel. This helps increase fuel mileage in coast.

The TCC is controlled by the ECM which depends on the throttle 'percentage' and VSS to control when the TCC gets activated.
In cruise the ECM uses the TPS voltage to understand when to disengage the TCC so you can accelerate without an abnormally high load on the engine.
Again it looks at throttle opening over time to know whether you are gently pressing the gas or nailing it. TPS supplies this info.

Edit: Power Enrichment is based on Percentage of TPS voltage.
I don't think mine uses KPa for that at all. There is a table with those values in it. So it DOES control the PE. (Mine is a MAP system BTW)

I'm sure there are a couple more places and reasons it gets used but that's about all I can think of right now.

The ECM must know the "throttle angle" to accurately control fuel delivery.
The TPS supplies this data in the form of a DC voltage.


[Modified by VetNutJim, 3:42 PM 6/10/2003]
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2003 | 05:03 PM
  #3  
devilfish's Avatar
devilfish
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 1
From: Sweden/Stockholm
Default Re: TPS function? (VetNutJim)

hmm ok thanks.

So a higher TPS vs a low TPS value in same Kpa range can change the fuel in that area, if you have moved the TPS.

What I mean is if you have tuned your car at one point, when the ratio between the TPS and the acctual postition on the TB blades is set. And then you change the TPS vs the position of the TB blades ( due to a new minimal idel set, due to a more agresive cam etc), the fuel will be diffrent.
WHy?

Beacuse lets say you pump up the IDLE to 950 rpm in the chip. You make a new minimal idel set to match the new setting and to keep the IAC counts low ( around 30 ).
Then the TPS also increase. And ( if you have a adj TPS, pre 90 cars ) then you back the TPS position to keep it at 0.54 V at the new base idle.
Then you change the hole geometry of the TB blades VS TPS volt. Your TB blades will be more open at a lower TPS volt from idel to WOT, then your first setting.

Your toughts on that?
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2003 | 06:13 PM
  #4  
devilfish's Avatar
devilfish
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,010
Likes: 1
From: Sweden/Stockholm
Default Re: TPS function? (devilfish)

anyone coments? This really bygging me.. :/
Reply
Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:29 PM
  #5  
ductape's Avatar
ductape
Drifting
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,818
Likes: 211
From: Charlestown IN
Cruise-In V Veteran
Default Re: TPS function? (devilfish)

On my '85 the tps (throttle position sensor) is just that. After you set your idle speed, you set the tps sensor so that the computer knows what your idle speed is. The change in resistence in the sensor changes the voltage drop across the sensor telling the computer how much you have accelerated, so it can make the required adjustments ie: fuel and timing.
Does that make sense? :)
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:10 AM
  #6  
lilyorkie's Avatar
lilyorkie
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
From: Belews Creek N.C.
Default Re: TPS function? (devilfish)

well my 1995 vette would not downshift from 3rd to 2nd going say 50 or so, The tps sensor was bad, it can be seen on a scanner- mine was showing 0-59% and the new showed 0-99% Downshifts perfect now, also the shifts were mushy and now they are firm.

Eric
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:15 AM
  #7  
Southern Comfort's Avatar
Southern Comfort
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,203
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas Nevada
Default Re: TPS function? (devilfish)

As long as it starts and runs :iagree:
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:46 AM
  #8  
SUPERNINJAB0Y's Avatar
SUPERNINJAB0Y
Instructor
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
From: santa maria ca
Default Re: TPS function? (Southern Comfort)

so u can set ur idle to say....400rpm and then set the tps to .55 or what ever have u and it will react fine with that idle and the computer won't go nutz!?
:confused: do u understand my question? :flag
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:50 AM
  #9  
lilyorkie's Avatar
lilyorkie
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 185
Likes: 0
From: Belews Creek N.C.
Default Re: TPS function? (devilfish)

the scanner shows blade angle and tps volts, I knew it was bad as the blade angle was only going to 59% and the new goes to 99%. :party:
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 07:38 AM
  #10  
ductape's Avatar
ductape
Drifting
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,818
Likes: 211
From: Charlestown IN
Cruise-In V Veteran
Default Re: TPS function? (SUPERNINJAB0Y)

so u can set ur idle to say....400rpm and then set the tps to .55 or what ever have u and it will react fine with that idle and the computer won't go nutz!?
:confused: do u understand my question? :flag
yep
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:08 PM
  #11  
Aaron's 87's Avatar
Aaron's 87
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 2,037
Likes: 0
From: Sarasota FL
Default Re: TPS function? (devilfish)

I haven't had to play with a MAP car yet. What table is concerning you?

I think you're understanding TPS function, but what TPS vs. fuel table is bugging you?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To TPS function?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:15 AM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE