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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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Default Dyno after adding 1.6 CC RR's

For all those that are asking what you get by adding these. Got my car dyno'd today after adding the 1.6 Comp Cam Roller Rockers. I got 12.2 more peak RWHP, and about 15 more RWHP at about 5800 RPM. The HP now climbed continuously until 5800 RPM where they shut it down, while before it tappered off to 275 RWHP at 5700 RPM where they shut it down. The numbers are:

w/o RR 278.4 RWHP, 302.2 RWTQ
w/ RR 290.6 RWHP, 305.8 RWTQ

I noticed after that the AC was on, but the guy doing it said it shuts off at WOT. Is he right? This weekend I'm adding SLP shorty headers. I'll post results in the next week or so.

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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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Is that with a stock cam?
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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Definitely keep us posted. Same moderate mods I'd like to do sometime.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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Yes, pls keep us posted. Looking at 1.6's myself in the near future.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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Please keep up posted regarding the header results.

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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 11:35 PM
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Is that with a stock cam?
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Yes nothing has been done internally to the engine, only bolt ons.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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Hmmm, that's about 15hp gain at the crank, just about what most sources claim...very nice.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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I noticed after that the AC was on, but the guy doing it said it shuts off at WOT. Is he right?
Yes A/C shuts off automatically at WOT. BTW, nice gains from the RR's!!! :cheers:
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 12:16 AM
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Wow! Those are awesome numbers for those minor mods! I'll be buying some RR's now... :auto:
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 03:16 AM
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Anyone have those same before and after tests on an L98?

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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 03:41 AM
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Are you using the ProMagnum or Magnum arms? Did you change the valve springs also?
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Are you using the ProMagnum or Magnum arms? Did you change the valve springs also?
These are ProMagnums. I didn't change the springs. I've read from other post where it was said if the heads didn't have many miles on them (I've got 28,000) and you weren't going to be drag racing them every weekend,and keeping it under 6,ooo RPM, you could probably get away with not changing them. They seem to be doing fine. But the HP curve is continuing going upwards even at 5800 RPM. The car wants to rev higher. After I put the shorty headers on it will want to even more. So I will probably bypass the rev limiter which is at 5,850 RPM on this car, so it can rev upwards. But then I'll have to put the springs in for sure.
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What year is your Corvette? I was going to do this on my '94 but heard (rumor) that the polylocks on the Promagnums will hit the drip tabs on the inside of the valve covers. Did you have any clearance problems with the valve covers?
Incidently, I would venture that over 1/3 of your HP increase is due to the reduced friction availed by the roller rocker arms based on CompCams own advertisement for the 1.52 (stock ratio) arms.


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What year is your Corvette? I was going to do this on my '94 but heard (rumor) that the polylocks on the Promagnums will hit the drip tabs on the inside of the valve covers. Did you have any clearance problems with the valve covers?
Incidently, I would venture that over 1/3 of your HP increase is due to the reduced friction availed by the roller rocker arms based on CompCams own advertisement for the 1.52 (stock ratio) arms.
I cut the drip tabs down to about 3/8". And your right I probably would have gotten 3-4 HP with just the 1.5 ratio.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 05:10 AM
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What year is your Corvette? I was going to do this on my '94 but heard (rumor) that the polylocks on the Promagnums will hit the drip tabs on the inside of the valve covers. Did you have any clearance problems with the valve covers?
Incidently, I would venture that over 1/3 of your HP increase is due to the reduced friction availed by the roller rocker arms based on CompCams own advertisement for the 1.52 (stock ratio) arms.

I cut the drip tabs down to about 3/8". And your right I probably would have gotten 3-4 HP with just the 1.5 ratio.
I disagree. I've heard that the majorty of the horsepower comes from the reduced friction of the roller fulcrum, and the more precise ratio on all valves.

Somethiing like 2/3. It really doesn't give you much extra lift at all. I have the 85 motor with iron heads, so that doesn't matter anyways... since I can't fit 1.6's on my heads. :(
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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What year is your Corvette? I was going to do this on my '94 but heard (rumor) that the polylocks on the Promagnums will hit the drip tabs on the inside of the valve covers.
Any aftermarket roller rocker will hit the drip tabs on you valve covers. Simple solution, just cut the drip tabs off.
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I disagree. I've heard that the majorty of the horsepower comes from the reduced friction of the roller fulcrum, and the more precise ratio on all valves.

Somethiing like 2/3. It really doesn't give you much extra lift at all. I have the 85 motor with iron heads, so that doesn't matter anyways... since I can't fit 1.6's on my heads. :(
A little extra lift can mean a lot. I'm gonna say that the horsepower comes from the lift, not the reduced friction. My logic? My car. I went from 365 horsepower with 1.6 full roller rockers to 379 with 1.7 full roller rockers. I'll even go so far as to say that the 1.7's added friction. The higher ratio made it even harder to open the valves because the pushrod has less mechanical advantage.

Going from 1.6 to 1.7 rockers took my lift from .525 to .558. As far as cam specs go that's a lot of lift. Consider the same cam with 1.5's would only be .492 lift!
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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nathan on your test did you do it back to back at the dyno like do a couple of runs then change the rockers while its still on the dyno then run dyno again :cheers:
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Unfortunately no. However it was the same dyno.
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Any aftermarket roller rocker will hit the drip tabs on you valve covers. Simple solution, just cut the drip tabs off.
Wouldn't cutting the drip tabs have a bad effect on rocker/valve lubrication or the overall oil movement situation inside the valve cover? Would it not be better to just use a pair of LT4 valve covers instead to be on the safe side?
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