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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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Since the 383 build up I have noticed smoke in the rear view mirror after a WOT acceleration (or I should say during).. BTW: Its not from the tires

anyways.. It looks greyish I guess but definatly not white! The engine has well over 3000 miles on it since the build up.. everything is basically stock except..

I put in a comp cam. H269 cam, its stroked to 383, I bumped up the compression to 10.8:1, removed the cats (the one side plugged) and have had the chip re-programmed by PCMforless..

I sent the chip back once already to be re-tuned.. and then emailed the guy the data so he could check out teh work.. he says it looks great "within 3% of ideal" in referring to the possibility if its rich or lean..

is this normal? was this stuff burned off by the cats when the motor was stock? I pulled the plugs and they look fabulous.. no oil on them at all..


any help, advice or personal experiance anyone would like to share would be much appreciated.

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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Default Re: smoke on WOT acceleration EEK!! (BluByU)

Brings a new meaning to your forum alias :lol: :jester

Seriously though, it sounds like perhaps your rings didn't seat properly and a little bit of oil is blowing by. With 3k miles on it, I'm sure it's not the various lubes used for the building process. You might want to have a leak-down check done to check the compression in your cylinders. Good luck. :cheers:
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Default Re: smoke on WOT acceleration EEK!! (BluByU)

What oil pump do you have??? If it's a super high pressure it could be pumping the oil out of the pan into the heads and the excess oil could get blown past the valve stem seals.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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Default Re: smoke on WOT acceleration EEK!! (mackeyred96)

its a stock replacement pump.. its not high pressure or high volume..
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how is a leak down test performed?
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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I thought its not that unusual for an engine to let slip a little wisp of greyish smoke at WOT? Or are you talking more than a little wisp, like a bunch of smoke?
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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its tough to quantify 'wisp' and 'ton of smoke' usually at WOT i'm looking forward.. however, I have noticed it is more than it was when it was stock..acutally i never noticed this when it was stock.. I say its greyish.. because its usually in a low light situation that i noticed it.. early morning.. dusk type situations.. so i'm not sure if its blue (oil) or black (rich)..

I guess the real quesiton should be.. does removing the cats and stoking the motor to 383 have the potential to cause more black (rich) smoke to exit the exhuast during WOT? oh and it smokes more @ higher RPMS then it shifts and smokes little till it builds the revs high again.. BTW: at this time my injector DC is around 82%
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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also not sure if this matters.. but..

running stock injectors, stock throttle body, 160 thermostat and fans reprogrammed to come on at 180*
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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Default Re: smoke on WOT acceleration EEK!! (BluByU)

Before you go to far, you really should find out if it's black smoke or not. Maybe have a budy drive behind you when you get on it. Make sure the car is nice and warm doing it.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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Before you go to far, you really should find out if it's black smoke or not. Maybe have a budy drive behind you when you get on it. Make sure the car is nice and warm doing it.
:iagree: Good way to insure your buddy stays behind you is to be sure he's in a Mustang... :lolg:
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Before you go to far, you really should find out if it's black smoke or not. Maybe have a budy drive behind you when you get on it. Make sure the car is nice and warm doing it.

:iagree: Good way to insure your buddy stays behind you is to be sure he's in a Mustang... :lolg:
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Default Re: smoke on WOT acceleration EEK!! (Strick)

:lolg: ... good one.

You might jack the car and inspect the exhaust system to see if any oil is dripping onto it.

Also, monitor oil & coolant levels.

If you are running without cats it could just be a little rich at WOT. What does the O2 sensor show during a WOT run?
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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between 650-850mv... too rich?
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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how is a leak down test performed?
A leak down test is performed with a differential pressure guage using a fitting that screws into the sparkplug hole. Usually ,80 psig air is input with the piston on TDC and the pressure differential inside the cylinder is measured. Anything above 70 psig is considered good. Also, if you do find a cylinder that is leaking excessively, you can usually hear where it is leaking from and be able to pin point what needs to be done to fix it. Also, you will hear air leaking , but if the leakdown is 70 or above that is normal.
It's a much better indication of the condition of a cylinder( rings, valves, etc.) than a simple static compression check. BTW the engine needs to be warmed up or the test will not be accurate.
These instruments are relatively inexpensive ($100 to $200)and are routinely used in aircraft maintemance. They can be purchaced from aircraft parts companies who cater to experimental aircraft homebuilders.
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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These instruments are relatively inexpensive ($100 to $200)and are routinely used in aircraft maintemance. They can be purchaced from aircraft parts companies who cater to experimental aircraft homebuilders.
:yesnod: Compression leak-down test is a req'd part of the annual inspection on production aircraft. FAA specifies if any cylinder tests less than 60psi (from 80psi input) then the a/c is not airworthy and cannot fly until repair is made, but common rule of thumb is anything below 70psi in the leak-down test and its time to look at that cylinder for problems...
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