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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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I spent most of a day trying to bleed the air out of my clutch cylinders. I did a search and wound up using this technique posted by The Green Rocket:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=336718

It seemed to work the best, the pedal feels great and I can now turn the rear wheels with the tranny in gear and the pedal depressed. The problem(?) is I can still feel a little bit of friction while turning the rear wheels as compared to what I feel when the tranny is in neutral. Is this okay, or do I still have air trapped in the clutch somewhere? I would just fire it up and try it, but I have a brand new motor that needs a proper break in - I don't want to fire it up and have to shut it down again without driving it/breaking it in first.

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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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I believe the only way to be sure is to start the car first thing in the morning, press the clutch all the way down and attempt to shift from first to reverse and back to first again. You should have smooth shifts with no hesitation. When the clutch is not releasing fully you will have anywere from slight to heavy difficulty going into reverse.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it, the difference is in your second test, you are spinning the clutch disk and an additional transmission gear. It will have more drag.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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Although the bleeding method you used should work, it's not what GM recommends. The service manual says remove the slave from the clutch housing, invert it so the bleeder screw is facing up. Now press the pedal all the way to the floor, open bleeder, close bleeder, release pedal. Similar to bleeding brakes. When you hear/see no more air you're fine.

I think you're Ok anyway. You will always feel some drag from the clutch disk when turning the wheels.



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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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I believe the only way to be sure is to start the car first thing in the morning, press the clutch all the way down and attempt to shift from first to reverse and back to first again. You should have smooth shifts with no hesitation. When the clutch is not releasing fully you will have anywere from slight to heavy difficulty going into reverse.
:skep: But you have to wait for the countershaft to stop spinnin, which takes a few seconds. Otherwise it will grind the syncros.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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The best way to check, IMO, is to put the rear end up on jackstands (block the front tires of course) and run the car with the clutch disengaged.. and see if the rear wheels turn.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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:skep: But you have to wait for the countershaft to stop spinnin, which takes a few seconds. Otherwise it will grind the syncros.
The countershaft should stop spinning as soon as you put the shifter in first. See ZFdoc's page, he basically recommends the procedure above.
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Clutch bleeding question (Atok)

Although the bleeding method you used should work, it's not what GM recommends. The service manual says remove the slave from the clutch housing, invert it so the bleeder screw is facing up. Now press the pedal all the way to the floor, open bleeder, close bleeder, release pedal. Similar to bleeding brakes. When you hear/see no more air you're fine.
I didn't mention it, but I have the service manual and I used this procedure first. I still got some more air out by using the procedure mentioned by The Green Rocket and had less slack in the clutch pedal. Right now the pedal is easy to push for about a 1/2 inch, then I can definitely feel resistance as it starts to release the clutch. My old clutch had at least 2 inches of light resistance before it 'firmed up' and actuated the clutch. So in that respect, things are better, although the old clutch had a bit of wear.

If no one has anything else to add,
I guess there's one way to find out for sure - that's fire it up and go. I'll try to take it for a drive this coming weekend.
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My pedal has about a 1/2 inch of slop right at the top too - I think it's normal.
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