Kwiklift and Bone creeper :)
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (iceman_t1)
iceman
For only 995 why would you even bother??
You will never be able to build the thing using that light weight type of steel that they use.
How do i know?? I figured and figured how to build one for about 3 months.
After calling all the steel companies, drawing and calculating, the dam thing was going to weight about 1000 pounds.
How in the world would i move it anywhere? Plus, I wouldnt have been able to lay it down flat.
anyway, I'm glad I went ahead and bot one, instead of trying to do it on the cheap.
plus, they're right here in my home town.
I had to pay some sales tax, but I was able to avoid any shipping cost.
Besides, if you like me, gettin old and lazy, it might have taken 18 - 20 years for me to get the dam thing built !!!!!
For only 995 why would you even bother??
You will never be able to build the thing using that light weight type of steel that they use.
How do i know?? I figured and figured how to build one for about 3 months.
After calling all the steel companies, drawing and calculating, the dam thing was going to weight about 1000 pounds.
How in the world would i move it anywhere? Plus, I wouldnt have been able to lay it down flat.
anyway, I'm glad I went ahead and bot one, instead of trying to do it on the cheap.
plus, they're right here in my home town.
I had to pay some sales tax, but I was able to avoid any shipping cost.
Besides, if you like me, gettin old and lazy, it might have taken 18 - 20 years for me to get the dam thing built !!!!!
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (56chev)
56chev, thanks for the tips but I didn't say anything about using steel. Also, since I don't live near the plant, I have to pay for shipping at the very least. Cheap? I prefer to call it creative and a challenge. Besides, I don't mind a little work so I can save about $900 towards my next set of tires, oil changes and other maintanance. After all, that's why we work on our own cars... to save $$$.
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (iceman_t1)
iceman
Good points !!
If you have access to all the necessary equipment to build one of these things, then I couldnt blame you one bit.
Most of us do not have that same access.
For me, the lift has really been helpful, especially when I can roll it out to the driveway, steamclean under the 4 wheel drive.
We even took apart one the cars in the driveway, then wheeled the thing back in the garage.
If you had ever seen a kwiklift in person, you would be surprised at the engineering that evidently did go into this thing.
I was kind of surprised, I thought that it was just a pair of ramps, but it really is built pretty nice.
More that I am capable of building.
Anyway, I noticed that they will be in Houston next month at the Corvette show.
( since they have a couple of pictures of my cars on their website, I look around quite often, just a little ego boost, I guess !!! )
Good points !!
If you have access to all the necessary equipment to build one of these things, then I couldnt blame you one bit.
Most of us do not have that same access.
For me, the lift has really been helpful, especially when I can roll it out to the driveway, steamclean under the 4 wheel drive.
We even took apart one the cars in the driveway, then wheeled the thing back in the garage.
If you had ever seen a kwiklift in person, you would be surprised at the engineering that evidently did go into this thing.
I was kind of surprised, I thought that it was just a pair of ramps, but it really is built pretty nice.
More that I am capable of building.
Anyway, I noticed that they will be in Houston next month at the Corvette show.
( since they have a couple of pictures of my cars on their website, I look around quite often, just a little ego boost, I guess !!! )
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (Strick)
Okay, you have a vert. Buy a piece of steel that will run across the underside of the car and have it lift on the X-frame as close to the rear mounting as you can, I use a channel beam 2x4 and if necessary put a small block of wood between the frame and the channel beam. This will clear the exhaust. I have 2 bottle jacks (wide bases) that I use to raise the beam and the rear of the Vette. Then for security, put your jack stands under the beam. Be sure to chock your front wheels. I know it sounds complicated, but it works. I do the front almost the same way. The next time I do it, I'll take pictures.
Thats a good idea. I am going to do some measuring and get a piece of steel to do that with. Thanks again.
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (93 ragtop)
Iceman:
Im interested in what you've worked out for a lift. If you have any drawings or could desribe what youre thinking id appreciate it.
Shipping, duties, taxes and exchange rate would make the kwiklift about $2500 up here.
Im interested in what you've worked out for a lift. If you have any drawings or could desribe what youre thinking id appreciate it.
Shipping, duties, taxes and exchange rate would make the kwiklift about $2500 up here.
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (iceman_t1)
iceman, if you're designing wood ramps and blocks, there is a very good design already available from another forum member. It even has removable side sections. :thumbs:
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (A96LT4)
iceman, if you're designing wood ramps and blocks, there is a very good design already available from another forum member. It even has removable side sections. :thumbs:
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (iceman_t1)
Arisa did the design.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=295539
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=295539
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (A96LT4)
Arisa did the design.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=295539
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=295539
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (lallend)
Thanks, you have mail. :cheers:
Well, the email I sent you bounced. Can anybody else host a pic of this design for all to see?
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Well, the email I sent you bounced. Can anybody else host a pic of this design for all to see?
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (iceman_t1)
Ok gang. Here it is. A few notes on this design.
Parts List:
- 7 or 8 2"x10"x10' or 2"x12"x10' treated plank boards.
- 4 gate latches, like what you might see on an old screen door on the back porch.
- 4 eye bolts for the latches.
- 4 screws for the latches.
- 8 rods that are threaded on both ends and long enough to go through all the boards.
- 8 washers and nuts to go on the rods.
- 4 sturdy handles for the large pieces so they are easy to move around.
Cut all the pieces to the dimension and assemble as shown in the image.
Let me know what you think.
http://members.***.net/lallend/RAMP-DESIGN%20(2).jpg
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Thanks to lallend for hosting the pic. :cheers:
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Parts List:
- 7 or 8 2"x10"x10' or 2"x12"x10' treated plank boards.
- 4 gate latches, like what you might see on an old screen door on the back porch.
- 4 eye bolts for the latches.
- 4 screws for the latches.
- 8 rods that are threaded on both ends and long enough to go through all the boards.
- 8 washers and nuts to go on the rods.
- 4 sturdy handles for the large pieces so they are easy to move around.
Cut all the pieces to the dimension and assemble as shown in the image.
Let me know what you think.
http://members.***.net/lallend/RAMP-DESIGN%20(2).jpg
Thanks to lallend for hosting the pic. :cheers:
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (iceman_t1)
[QUOTE]Ok gang. Here it is. Let me know what you think.
Well for starters I wouldnt use pressure treated wood. It tends to crack, warp, and shrink to much over time. Also, while I think this is a nice design for a set of large ramps, it is just that. The kwiklift gets the complete vehicle off of the ground and is considerably higher to boot. With the kwiklift you have the ability to take the wheels off of the car, while it is up , and I dont believe you would with these ramps. IMHO I would put the money spent on the lumber and hardware towards a kwiklift. I agree the kwiklift does appear to be expensive, but when you consider the features it has, trying to duplicate something that is compareable, is quite a feat. I personally considered a wood system, and even considered making something out of steel, but when all was said and done, weighing the cost of buying materials, time to build it, and then how useful the finished product would be, I decided to get the kwiklift and I havnt regreted it.
Well for starters I wouldnt use pressure treated wood. It tends to crack, warp, and shrink to much over time. Also, while I think this is a nice design for a set of large ramps, it is just that. The kwiklift gets the complete vehicle off of the ground and is considerably higher to boot. With the kwiklift you have the ability to take the wheels off of the car, while it is up , and I dont believe you would with these ramps. IMHO I would put the money spent on the lumber and hardware towards a kwiklift. I agree the kwiklift does appear to be expensive, but when you consider the features it has, trying to duplicate something that is compareable, is quite a feat. I personally considered a wood system, and even considered making something out of steel, but when all was said and done, weighing the cost of buying materials, time to build it, and then how useful the finished product would be, I decided to get the kwiklift and I havnt regreted it.
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (iceman_t1)
Boy, Us wooden ramp guys keep hijacking the KwikLift posts :)
I posted my heavier version of Arisa's design built by stacking 2 x 12's.
Some info in this thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=696645
BTW: I really liked the Kwiklift too but for the few times I need to get under the cars, I didn't want to have to deal with it in the garage all the time.
But I understand the appeal of it :)
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I posted my heavier version of Arisa's design built by stacking 2 x 12's.
Some info in this thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=696645
BTW: I really liked the Kwiklift too but for the few times I need to get under the cars, I didn't want to have to deal with it in the garage all the time.
But I understand the appeal of it :)
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (93 ragtop)
I think this wood Ramp is perfect, most of us who want to work on our cars really just need access to the under part of the engine and exhaust system, wires, etc.
For lifting up the suspension and taking off the tires. I think most of us have heard about a jack and jack stands.
:D
Just my opinion
This Kwiklift is to expensive for me
For lifting up the suspension and taking off the tires. I think most of us have heard about a jack and jack stands.
:D
Just my opinion
This Kwiklift is to expensive for me
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Re: Kwiklift and Bone creeper :) (TheStef)
93 rag
I could not agree with you more.
The kwiklift has been a great find for me.
I couldnt imagine getting under the cars with jack stands, ever again.
I did see Danny, the owner of kwiklift at a show in OKC last weekend, he mentioned a smaller version of the kwiklift for corvette guys, and for smaller types cars, that would price out at 750 - 800 bucks.
Said it would be one length, and hold 105 - 110 inch wheelbase.
Might be worth a phone call to them to find out any more info.
I could not agree with you more.
The kwiklift has been a great find for me.
I couldnt imagine getting under the cars with jack stands, ever again.
I did see Danny, the owner of kwiklift at a show in OKC last weekend, he mentioned a smaller version of the kwiklift for corvette guys, and for smaller types cars, that would price out at 750 - 800 bucks.
Said it would be one length, and hold 105 - 110 inch wheelbase.
Might be worth a phone call to them to find out any more info.