383 vs 400 ?
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383 vs 400 ?
Too much winter "down time" and the mind starts to wander. .... Hm... those that have "been there, done that"... is there any signifigant performance increase in the 400 c.i.d.? vs a 383? I've got the AFR 190's, superram, headers all ready to assemble on the original 350 but now pause to re-consider. The oppourtunity still exists to go to more cubes. Question is- what are the rewards for the costs additional block etc. (400 c.i.) vs the stroker kit(in a 383) ?
Can a camparison be made to make the choice based on solid info/ ? Thanks, Jack
Can a camparison be made to make the choice based on solid info/ ? Thanks, Jack
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Re: 383 vs 400 ? (bigjack)
The only substitute for cubic inches, is rectangular dollars. It sounds like you are pretty well aware of the differences in the operations. Good luck, and...
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Re: 383 vs 400 ? (CFI-EFI)
The only substitute for cubic inches, is rectangular dollars.
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Re: 383 vs 400 ? (loiq)
Hey I havnt done either but thats not going to stop me from giving my opinion. :D If it were me, and I could get a 400 block at a reasonable price, I would go that way instead of the stroker kit on the 350 block. The only advantage in doing the 350 block verses the 400 block is first buying one and some say that it cools better due to the block not having siamised (spelled wrong) cylinders like the 400, which IMO is not that big of a concern. There are a lot of nice running street 400 blocks out there. The extra cubic inches IMO outweight the concerns.
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Re: 383 vs 400 ? (93 ragtop)
If you decide to go with the 406 be sure to have your machinist drill the steam holes in the head. This is sometimes forgotten and the reason that 400 blocks have an undeserved bad rap for overheating. We have put a few 406 and 434 motors on vettes and f-bodies without any issues. :jester
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Re: 383 vs 400 ? (Pete K)
Please consider the tuning issues, if it was as easy as just going big cubes, many of us would not be burning tons of chips to get themtuned/running, I guess I am saying be prepaaired for debug if you lean towards the radical.
This coming from a been there done that guy :seeya
This coming from a been there done that guy :seeya
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Re: 383 vs 400 ? (Pete K)
If you decide to go with the 406 be sure to have your machinist drill the steam holes in the head. This is sometimes forgotten and the reason that 400 blocks have an undeserved bad rap for overheating. We have put a few 406 and 434 motors on vettes and f-bodies without any issues. :jester
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[Modified by Pete K, 2:01 AM 3/10/2004]
i on the other hand do not believe in steam holes in 400 and when you do steam holes you open pandoras box for other problems
i do not drill steam holes did once and never again :cheers:
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Re: 383 vs 400 ? (Pete K)
Conventional lore says, you do not need steam holes for a hi perf or race engine that will spend most of it's time at 3500 rpms or above. At that speed the water pump volume purges the pockets of steam that can form. On the other hand, 15 years ago, or so, I swapped a set of undrilled 350 heads onto the 400 in my pick up truck. NO problems. My machine shop says he can't even drill my Bowtie block for the holes, due to the thickness of the deck.
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