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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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Its a 96 LT4---When i have the car in 4th gear going 70 the coolant reads 197....when i shift to 5th the coolant reads 204...when i shift to 6th the coolant goes to 210.....why?

Radiator is free of debris, no leaves or bags under there, no leaks.....I would appreciate any thoughts or remedies.

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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (fryguy84)

Is this an instantaneous change? or does it change gradually over a period of minutes in each gear?
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (fryguy84)

I'll bet it has to do with the RPMs of your motor pushing the water pump. Try clutching it and run up the same RPMs as a lower gear while in 6th (but coasting) and see what happens..... :confused:
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Its a gradual rise---
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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I'll bet it has to do with the RPMs of your motor pushing the water pump.
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It happens to me all the time.
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (fryguy84)

Good, gradual change would mean you might want to check your air bleed screw and burp it. Mine did something similar and would float up and down depending on the rpms and/or gear. I bet you have a little air pocket. Try this, turn on the heater and start up the engine. Then bleed the air valve by opening the valve, squeezing the hose a bit until the fluid dribbles out then close off the valve. Run it for a couple minutes then repeat. You should get more constant coolant temps. Let us know what you find. :smash:
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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I will try that--thanks
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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When I burped my system, took almost two hours.
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (Mr Mojo)

When I burped my system, took almost two hours.
By "burping" you mean running car with heat on--opening burp screw---running car with heat on---turn off and repeat?

how do you know when its fully burped?
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (fryguy84)

Not exactly,

the heat on ensures the coolant flows through the heater core which in a lot of cases is a good place to have air in the system. Burp it and close the valve off. Then repeat after you run it for a while to let the thermostat cycle the coolant around and once you do it a couple times you get most of it out. Drive it for a few days and do it again and you should have all of the air out. The corvette is difficult to burp complete the first try. most cars are easy. A little air is no big deal it, it does make your temps swing more than normal though. Hope that clears it up for you. :auto:
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Assuming the same forward speed, the variable is clearly engine rpm and associated reduced flow rate provided by the water pump. Since the variation is around 6% and temps are still within acceptable range, no problem.

Keep the greasy side down.

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (fryguy84)

Hmm. I don't remember my car doing that with the OEM water pump but it would make sense.

With my electric water pump I see just the opposite. Higher RPM's mean slightly higher temps since the water pump is pumping at the same rate all the time.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (Nathan Plemons)

COuld it be a combo of RPM, and work. Wouldn't the car be under more of a load with it in 6th gear/lower RPM but still trying to maintain say 60MPH.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Your temperature rises because the coolant flow drops with dropping engine rpm.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Your temperature rises because the coolant flow drops with dropping engine rpm.
This makes complete sense. The only thing that gets me, is why isn't the higher flow of air cooling the car down, as you speed up?? I know these aren't air cooled beasts, but what little air does make it to the cooling system , you'd think, would help cool things down? So, to keep temps down on the highway, it's best to keep it a gear higher then normal to keep up the flow??
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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The air flow is the same........only the waterpump slows down because you maintain the same highway speed and shift into 5th then 6th. Even if you increase your highway speed, you make a larger percent drop in rpm in 5th & 6th than you increase the air flow by driving faster. You need a higher flow waterpump or a larger radiator, or both.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (jfb)

JFB is correct. Except:
You need a higher flow waterpump or a larger radiator, or both.
Your temps aren't too high as they are. I don't think you need any of these. If you are concerned, pull your radiator out and clean out all the leaves, twigs and plastic bags that have built up between the rad and condensor. If you're still not happy, pour in a container of Water Wetter.

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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Coolant/Temp question.. (fryguy84)

Mine does about the same on my '94. I was hoping a new water pump (OEM) I installed last week would fix it, but it doesn't. I'm looking at either replacing the radiator with a beefier aftermarket one or just getting a brand new one (with no bent fins :lol: ). I know it's the nature of the beast for these to run hot, but I'd prefer to do whatever to keep it down.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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If the temp is the only reason you're replacing the water pump...Don't. As long as the pump is turning, it's pumping. Pump bearings wear out, seals leak, but they don't diminish in capacity with age. See my suggestion, above if you feel you need some relief.

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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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If the temp is the only reason you're replacing the water pump...Don't. As long as the pump is turning, it's pumping. Pump bearings wear out, seals leak, but they don't diminish in capacity with age. See my suggestion, above if you feel you need some relief.

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Cool...figured my water pump was just old. They don't pump less volume over time?
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