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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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My mass air sensor needs replacement and I see that Granatelli now offers an ADJUSTABLE unit for the '85 and later.
Is this feature (adjustability) an advantage? How does this co-ordinate with the cars existing fuel injection system/computer controls??
Or is this a "gimmick" ?
Last, is the O.E.M. mass air sensor a restriction in a 400 cube engine? :confused:
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable MAS??? (bigjack)

Its another 'sucker' mod in the magazines i bet.

Nobody has tried it yet, its new. But I'd advise against it.

When you get that big, the MAF can be a restriction, depending on the power levels youre at.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable MAS??? (bigjack)

It looks like the Microtech unit I have. The advantage is being able to adjust the airflow reading so the stock MAF table can be used. You will still have the 255gm/sec limit no matter how big a MAF you use.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable MAS??? (Bluevette85)

It looks like the Microtech unit I have. The advantage is being able to adjust the airflow reading so the stock MAF table can be used. You will still have the 255gm/sec limit no matter how big a MAF you use.
It would be interesting to see how the output signal from the MAF changes when you adjust it. The one thing that you may be forgetting is that the 255 gm/sec limit is due to the architecture of the PROM. Say, for example, that you have an aftermarket MAF that's capable of flowing 510 gm/sec of air (hypthetical number chosen for ease of math). You can use that MAF sensor as well as the stock ECM, however, when you fill in the MAF tables in the program, you'd need to divide all of the mass air flow values by 2, and then fill in the fuel tables based on the real airflow. The ECM doesn't know that when it thinks you have 300 gm/sec of flow, you really have 600 gm/sec. The computer only knows what you tell it, and lying to it can be done, as long as you make sure to dot the "i"s and cross the "t" on the compensation for the lies in other parts of the program.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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:iagree:

If you have hit that "255 wall" that MAF could be adjusted (??) to give a lower reading. Then you might need to trim out the tables in the EPROM.

So, I see it as a "real" entity but to be used only when needed, with no real advantage on a nearly stock L98.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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I'm not real understanding of computers and the system at work in our cars. So, in "plain words" what are your thoughts? I note that this is going in front of a 400 c.i. engine . I've got one of Ski's chips and need to replace the M.A.S. regardless. I don't understand how this unit can trulyoffer adjustability if the computer inputs try to "over-ride" the MAS.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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The ECM only "overrides" that data at part throttle while in closed loop mode.

At WOT the ECM ignores the O2 sensor data and uses MAF, TPS, and other inputs to calculate fuel flow (injector pulse width).

For your motor you might get some benefit from that MAF. The idea is to trim back the MAF output to keep the air flow data to hit the ceiling value of 255 counts.
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