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Hi David. I see you are getting lots of reads buy no replies. I guess I'll give it a try.
Let's assume that these pipes will slide over your stock pipes after cutting off the old mufflers. If so, get the rear of the car up in the air so you can work under it. If you can get the bottom of the wheels 12" off the ground, that should be enough. Just hold the new pipes under the old ones. Make sure the tips are aligned where you want them and align the other ends of the pipe along the stock pipe. Use a marker to mark the stock pipe so it overlaps the connector on the new pipes. Then just cut the stock pipes to remove the mufflers. Hang the new pipes and use some pipe clamps to hold the new pipes on. It would cost about $50 to have a muffler shop do it but if you want to save that, all you would need is a hacksaw to cut the old pipe.
Swapping these out should be fairly easy.
I had a massive reply typed earlier...but compy froze up when i hit reply, so ill give you the basics...
I have them installed.
They are not built to last, just good for about a little over a year, due to the insides are metal, bare metal.
The black paint chips off easily by road debris, rocks etc... so make sure you touchup a chip before it rusts through..
There is no interior resonance, at all.
The exterior sound is decent, kind of mild at idle, but aggressive at WOT runs...
Quality/life span - 3/5 The steel is rather thick
Apearance- Great chrome, but keep it clean, as I said, black part chips easily.
Interior sound, just the rumble, but no resonance
Exterior sound, turns heads in parking lots, aggressive at 45 mpg...not obnoxious, very tolerable!
value- For the price, there worth it, but Id check and see if there are sound laws in your community/state, as they are straight pipes...tuned straight pipes...but still.
I bought the Monza mufflers for my 87. Very throaty and they lasted four years until I sold the car. I think I paid $119 for the pair, attractive because I was low bucks at the time. Never regretted it.
Re: Has Anyone Used These Mufflers? (vetteseniorcit)
I've never installed these, but my advice would be to go to a local muffler/exhaust shop and speak to them first. It wouldn't surprise me if they could fabricate you up a set of nice looking and sounding mufflers to fit your car for what you would pay for these. And they may even be stainless too. Best of all, they would install them for you.
I was looking to buy the same exact ones until reading on this forum about someone going to a muffler shop to have some made. well i am glad i read up on this I went to a local muffler shop and had some custom eliminators made that blow those away. saved about 50 dollars to. :chevy
I put these on my car when I first bought it. They sound decent......as someone else said, kinda mild at idle and throaty at WOT. The quality is so-so at best. Mine started to rust pretty bad at about a year and I don't really drive it in the rain. The fitment is poor. I tried to do the install my self and these things came nowhere close to lining up with the exhaust cut-outs. A muffler shop had to heat them and bend them into the right shape. I guess the best thing about them was they were cheap.
I had those in my car when I bought it. They sound good and no resonance. But, like others said they do not last. Mine rusted totally and one fell off while driving after only few years of use.
We put them on our 86 daily driver. They don't last (rust)! If the car is a keeper get the borlas with the stainless rear Y pipe and they sound great and will last forever! The Borlas are an easy do it yourself installation!
Dont be mistaken, these are NOT glasspack style mufflers, and are NOT muff. elims...
They have taken 2 tubes, and lined them with an inner cylinder that tunes the exhaust note to perfection. There is no Fiberglass packing, its all steel, and it sounds really good. I put mine on myself, and my car had the original 85 mufflers on it. Took me a few hours, a bunch of wiggling...but it was no big deal! The fitment was perfect, both lined up perfectly to the cutouts, until I backed into a truck, and one got pushed in about a half inch...but It pulled back out.
Dont get me wrong, they arent Corsas, or Borlas, but they dont resonate like borlas or Corsas, plus they dont cost 1 grand either!
If the car is a keeper get the borlas with the stainless rear Y pipe and they sound great and will last forever! The Borlas are an easy do it yourself installation!
I have the stainless Borlas + SS "Y" pipe; I didn't like the tips, so I cut then off and welded a set of 4 Ravin SS tips on. I also fabricated a set of hangers that basically haul the mufflers right up to the hanger bracket...The Borlas hung way too low...
They sound all right, I guess... :rolleyes: But they look better... :D
I installed mine about two years ago on my '87. For $150.00 I was prepared to remove them if I was not completely happy. Well, I still have them and they look great (my opinion). I got the chrome with the red interiors. I have cleaned and repainted the insides twice to keep them red. Carbon will eventually discolor them. I have not seen any rust on them. But I do wax them and I have never been in the rain with my car over the last 6 years I've owned it. Follow my link to my web page. You can see them mounted on my '87. If you are patient, and have Quicktime, click on the link below to listen to the sound of these pipes. Oh, they also provided me with enough back pressure to avoid loosing torque.
It's a .mov file I created with a digital camera. It does load slowly.
Thanks for all the replies :cheers: . I'm still considering them, but I think I'm going to visist a couple of shops first and see what they can do for me.