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Getting some slop out of my upper ball joints...Should I go ahead and knock the old ones out and replace it or buy a new control arms with the ball joint installed.. Ball joints are cheap....control arms aint but I am not trying to cut corners. Think there would be any difference? Think Im nuts? ...your not alone
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Originally Posted by Powerdrive
Getting some slop out of my upper ball joints...Should I go ahead and knock the old ones out and replace it or buy a new control arms with the ball joint installed.. Ball joints are cheap....control arms aint but I am not trying to cut corners. Think there would be any difference? Think Im nuts? ...your not alone
Unless you have damaged the control arms, bent or twisted them, just install new ball joints! The control arms are very, very durable
The upper ones rarely wear out. Are you sure they are your problem?
I just finished a complete front end job. The only advantage (?) to new "A" arms, is new inner shafts and stock bushings. If you want to change the bushings, an Energy Suspension bushing kit will still save money. If the old bushings are good and you are otherwise happy with them, you can change the ball joints without removing the "A" frames from the car., a real time saver.
If you have future track use in mind, a nice upgrade is Global west bushings. Better for the lower arms too. It's not a trivial job, but they work really well. They don't deflect as much as rubber, don't sqeak like urethane sometimes can, and have less friction for rotation.
Quicksilver has a set of new uppers with new balljoints that he's trying to sell now that he's moved up to a Z06. He intended to install them on his 147K 93 but figured it was easier and quicker - no drilling, no pressing, just an R&R job so he bought them as a unit. Here's the thread:
Ditto about upper balljoint wear, all they do is turn they don't carry the load.
If you are going to change them you drill out the 4 rivets and replace them with bolts.
Lower ball joints press out, AutoZone loans the press kit for FREE. They are easy to change.
The most difficult part of changing either balljoint is getting it loose from the spindle. Don't waste your money of a pickel fork they are a pain to use. If you watch suspension mechanics all they do is take out the cotter pin loosen the nut and hit the side of the connection a big hammer! The shop manual shows a tool that is mostly 2 bolts in a threaded sleeve you put between the 2 studs open them up and it pops them out. I made one out of hardware store parts for about $2.
If you are going to change them you drill out the 4 rivets and replace them with bolts.
The most difficult part of changing either balljoint is getting it loose from the spindle.
JS
My method for releasing the tapered stud from the knuckle (spindle) is simple and painless. I make the spring work FOR me. For the uppers, I jacked up the lower "A" frame and put a spacer (block of wood, hammer, socket, etc.) between the bottom of the upper "A" frame and the car's frame, and then lowered the jack. I removed the castellated nut and reversed it on the ball stud. I screwed it on until it was flush with the end of the ball stud. A couple of square hits with a hammer at the nut and stud, and it popped loose. If you are doing the lower, at the same time, move on and repeat, below, before you separate the upper ball joint any further, to keep the spring working for you. No special tools, no muss, no fuss.
IBEAM700,
What he said.
My method for releasing the tapered stud from the knuckle (spindle) is simple and painless. I make the spring work FOR me. For the uppers, I jacked up the lower "A" frame and put a spacer (block of wood, hammer, socket, etc.) between the bottom of the upper "A" frame and the car's frame, and then lowered the jack. I removed the castellated nut and reversed it on the ball stud. I screwed it on until it was flush with the end of the ball stud. A couple of square hits with a hammer at the nut and stud, and it popped loose. If you are doing the lower, at the same time, move on and repeat, below, before you separate the upper ball joint any further, to keep the spring working for you. No special tools, no muss, no fuss.
RACE ON!!!
CFI's method is a good one and it works great, I also have a good one if you have an air hammer get the pickle fork fittings and zap 'em out with that.