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Don't gut or take off your cats if you have a 94 or newer oz senors were added in 94 past the cats to monitor them and if they're removed it may cause problems.
You are right, the sensors are forward of the cats (at least in my 95 they are). You should not get a code, but mine aren't gutted so I don't know for sure.
To connect this topic with your other thread, I would just replace the cats; they're there for a reason and if your dropping the exhaust to gut them why not just replace them. Might consider new O2 sensors at the same time depending on their condition.
Well I read on the net jsut the other day and it said not do to it if you have a 94 or later.......I don't remember how it's setup on my 95 off hand but I did read that.
maybe ur ok to do it then if so go for it I saw a gain when I did it to my truck.
"1. Gutted catalytic converters. Don't do this on 94 and later Corvettes. 94 and later Corvettes have a O2 sensor AFTER the cat which monitors the effectiveness of the catalytic converter. Gut the converters and you'll get a check engine light. This is one of the reasons I tell people to buy a 92 or 93 model to modify."
I have a 94 and the passenger side cat has an O2 sensor directly after it. I am intimately acquainted with it since I had to monkey with that cat quite a bit to change the starter yesterday.
I was under my car last night putting in a new slave cyl. and I noticed the one on the passenger side (it was upstream) I didn't look close on the driver side but I'm sure I would have noticed one downstream if it was there.
Last edited by Irish Mike; Jul 28, 2004 at 01:18 PM.
hm... I read something here recently... the 94s had after O2s, but they were dummys.
a lot of queer things went on in the mid 90s in prep for the transition to OBDII. But 94 and 95 cars are STILL ODBI cars.
The exhaust folks, such as Corsa, do not distinquish a difference in their systems until 1996 (extra O2s).
I would be curious to see what would happen if any downstream O2s were removed from one of these cars.
I have a 96 LT4 that I just finished 355 rebuild. with hotcam & stage III ported heads. other mods included: Exotic Muscle Long tubes, no cats, corsa Exhaust, meziere water pump, Bosch 30# injectors, 52MM throttle body, dynatech opti, Aluminum flywheel, Spec II clutch, eliminated crank sensor, eliminated secondary air injection system, eliminated post cat O2 sensors. and I had my ECM reprogrammed by Ed Wright to compensate for all my mods and I throw no codes.
Engine runs and sounds awesome, although that is with open headers because I'm still waiting for me header extentions and 4.10 rear to arrive
hm... I read something here recently... the 94s had after O2s, but they were dummys.
a lot of queer things went on in the mid 90s in prep for the transition to OBDII. But 94 and 95 cars are STILL ODBI cars.
The exhaust folks, such as Corsa, do not distinquish a difference in their systems until 1996 (extra O2s).
I would be curious to see what would happen if any downstream O2s were removed from one of these cars.
My 94 Corvette has ONE O2 sensor behind the passenger cat. IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE COMPUTER'S ENGINE MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONALITY.
These O2 sensors were placed in 94-95 cars during the OBD 1 to OBD 2 transition. It was used by dealerships and service centers to take data that would later be used in OBD II engine management.
In other words, as far as you're concerned it doesn't even exist. You can just remove it, won't make a bit of difference.
the 3rd sensor is a dummy, I have ran gutted, now I run longtubes, no
cats. No 3rd sensor just zip tie the wire up and you can unhook it
completely, no codes! its to detour you thats all.
I thought about the gutting thing. But wanted to stay smog legal. So I installed Random Tech Cat. Everyone can breath better, and I can pass Smog test's.