I need some cheap speed, whats my choices
07-29-2001, 10:46 PM
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problem is I just convinced my wife to let me buy a vette, and it is after all my hype to her the slowest car we own(14.01 @100) but is worth more then all of them combined(except our jeep)I know the big problem is the 2.53 gears but after dropping 5,000 on the down payment I don't have 1,800 for a new Dana installed. I have right around 1,000
I'm thinking SLP cold air intake,160` stat w reprogramable chip and maybe mufflers.also do those airfoil's help at all? Thanks
I'm thinking SLP cold air intake,160` stat w reprogramable chip and maybe mufflers.also do those airfoil's help at all? Thanks
07-30-2001, 03:43 AM
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You have the right idea, get more are in/out and drop the operating temp.
I would skip the air foil at this point but get the programmer.
Cut back the spark plug ground electrodes for "free" 10hp more.
You might consider an underdrive crank pulley if funds are available.
I would skip the air foil at this point but get the programmer.
Cut back the spark plug ground electrodes for "free" 10hp more.
You might consider an underdrive crank pulley if funds are available.
07-30-2001, 11:03 AM
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Cheap speed!!!
Jumbo shrimp!!!
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Cheap speed will end up costing more in the long run than if you spend the money in the first place. When I started hot rodding, I listened to my wallet and got a set of 882 GM castings "race ported" to the tune of $200! That got me going $200 worth of speed!!! I then had a better set of heads done by a nobody that was charging a few hundred less that everyone else! That got me a little speed, but not much. I then stepped up to the plate and go a set of heads from the BEST I could find who was actually one of the more expensive ones also. Then I was FLYING!!! I lost one race in 2 years and was beating trailer cars at HRP when I drove to the track on street tires with the A/C on and my girlfriend sitting in the passenger seat. Well, at that point, I had spent around $6500 on heads to go fast where if I would have gone to GTP in the first place and paid the piper, I would have only been in the hole $3700.
Sure wish I would have saved my money and gotten the more expensive heads in the first place!!!
The SLP intake is a GREAT peice!!! You will gain some ponies and the look is the best I have seen!!! You will get similar or the same HP gains from cutting your stock lid open and throwing a K&N in there though, so only do the SLP if you like the looks better. That is what I have on my '94 and I love it!!!
Reprogram is a GREAT idea!!! You can really improve your car by doing this as well as pick up some HP.
Mufflers will not always give a big increase in HP, but this is something that can help you enjoy your car SOOO MUCH MORE every time you even start it up!!! The sound will make your car sound like the sports car that it is!
the next thing that I would recommend is an ASP pulley followed by a Comp Cams pro Magnum valvetrain package!
I don't know if you have an automatic, but the single best thing I think you can get for your car would be a Vigilante torque converter. This will make your car feel like a whole new car and make you very noticable quicker!
With these things done, you are looking at a very strong base for you to use and to build on in the future!
Good Luck,
Jumbo shrimp!!!
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Cheap speed will end up costing more in the long run than if you spend the money in the first place. When I started hot rodding, I listened to my wallet and got a set of 882 GM castings "race ported" to the tune of $200! That got me going $200 worth of speed!!! I then had a better set of heads done by a nobody that was charging a few hundred less that everyone else! That got me a little speed, but not much. I then stepped up to the plate and go a set of heads from the BEST I could find who was actually one of the more expensive ones also. Then I was FLYING!!! I lost one race in 2 years and was beating trailer cars at HRP when I drove to the track on street tires with the A/C on and my girlfriend sitting in the passenger seat. Well, at that point, I had spent around $6500 on heads to go fast where if I would have gone to GTP in the first place and paid the piper, I would have only been in the hole $3700.
Sure wish I would have saved my money and gotten the more expensive heads in the first place!!!
The SLP intake is a GREAT peice!!! You will gain some ponies and the look is the best I have seen!!! You will get similar or the same HP gains from cutting your stock lid open and throwing a K&N in there though, so only do the SLP if you like the looks better. That is what I have on my '94 and I love it!!!
Reprogram is a GREAT idea!!! You can really improve your car by doing this as well as pick up some HP.
Mufflers will not always give a big increase in HP, but this is something that can help you enjoy your car SOOO MUCH MORE every time you even start it up!!! The sound will make your car sound like the sports car that it is!
the next thing that I would recommend is an ASP pulley followed by a Comp Cams pro Magnum valvetrain package!
I don't know if you have an automatic, but the single best thing I think you can get for your car would be a Vigilante torque converter. This will make your car feel like a whole new car and make you very noticable quicker!
With these things done, you are looking at a very strong base for you to use and to build on in the future!
Good Luck,
07-30-2001, 02:13 PM
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freebies are the best mods!
open air works (not wonders, but it works, did mine last night) and cleaned my K&N too. i also hear that the coolant bypass on the TPI helps (again, it doesn't do wonders) but i am gonna do that too!
some of the guys i just started hanging around said there is a guy (screen name is marcho polo or something like that) he burns custom chips and they are about 1/3 or less of the price you can buy a hypertech or jet chip for. also underdrive pulleys they say are good for 10-30 HP.
Keep us posted! we all want to know what the times are after the mods!
open air works (not wonders, but it works, did mine last night) and cleaned my K&N too. i also hear that the coolant bypass on the TPI helps (again, it doesn't do wonders) but i am gonna do that too!
some of the guys i just started hanging around said there is a guy (screen name is marcho polo or something like that) he burns custom chips and they are about 1/3 or less of the price you can buy a hypertech or jet chip for. also underdrive pulleys they say are good for 10-30 HP.
Keep us posted! we all want to know what the times are after the mods!
07-30-2001, 05:10 PM
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Bite the bullit and change the rear gears.
You get the most "seat of the pants" performance when you change out those high mileage cogs. I changed my 2:59's to 3:45 and it made all the diffrence in the world.
DWS
You get the most "seat of the pants" performance when you change out those high mileage cogs. I changed my 2:59's to 3:45 and it made all the diffrence in the world.
DWS
07-30-2001, 11:46 PM
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You dont say if you are auto, or 6 speed.. if you have an automatic, think about a 2400-2600 torque converter..
The Vigilante, or Pro Torque are $700 but you can get an inexpensive brand for $300.. if you are not going to run it at the track every week...
The Vigilante, or Pro Torque are $700 but you can get an inexpensive brand for $300.. if you are not going to run it at the track every week...
07-31-2001, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Red96Coupe
You dont say if you are auto, or 6 speed.. if you have an automatic, think about a 2400-2600 torque converter..
The Vigilante, or Pro Torque are $700 but you can get an inexpensive brand for $300.. if you are not going to run it at the track every week...
It's an A4 and I will probably run it at the track 5 or 6 times a year. maybe more if I can get it in the mid 13's. (not much fun running a car that's slow especially when I have 2 high 12 ricers and a mid 12 FWD car)my future plans are for much higher HP but thats probably 9-12 months away so yeah a better converter is probably a good idea thanks.
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The Vigilante, or Pro Torque are $700 but you can get an inexpensive brand for $300.. if you are not going to run it at the track every week...
It's an A4 and I will probably run it at the track 5 or 6 times a year. maybe more if I can get it in the mid 13's. (not much fun running a car that's slow especially when I have 2 high 12 ricers and a mid 12 FWD car)my future plans are for much higher HP but thats probably 9-12 months away so yeah a better converter is probably a good idea thanks.
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07-31-2001, 10:31 AM
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07-31-2001, 11:22 AM
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cheap is the the whole "focus" with ford and
I already have one. that's why I bought a Vette. My other cars are all fast(especially my ford)but there is no feeling like driving a Vette(except maybe my dad's lotus)now I just want the thing to go. maybe I'm spoiled that 14 flat is not fast enough but with new Camaro's & cobra's in the high 13's what's a proud Vette owner to do. I can't let my wife see me get beat by a F-150 wich happened last night thank god I was alone and only the people reading this and the lightning owner know the truth. .3 to .4 is all I need $1,000 ought to get me that right??
I already have one. that's why I bought a Vette. My other cars are all fast(especially my ford)but there is no feeling like driving a Vette(except maybe my dad's lotus)now I just want the thing to go. maybe I'm spoiled that 14 flat is not fast enough but with new Camaro's & cobra's in the high 13's what's a proud Vette owner to do. I can't let my wife see me get beat by a F-150 wich happened last night thank god I was alone and only the people reading this and the lightning owner know the truth. .3 to .4 is all I need $1,000 ought to get me that right??
07-31-2001, 11:37 AM
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Aqua,
Not trying to step on toes, but do you still own all those cars in your sig? If so sell one to free up some capital! Than you can play more. If you do have them all I don't see how you can be so tight on cash. Insurance & up keep must be costing a lot. Just my .02 worth.
BTW Got any pics. of the vette ??? Would love to see it!
Neal
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Not trying to step on toes, but do you still own all those cars in your sig? If so sell one to free up some capital! Than you can play more. If you do have them all I don't see how you can be so tight on cash. Insurance & up keep must be costing a lot. Just my .02 worth.
BTW Got any pics. of the vette ??? Would love to see it!
Neal
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07-31-2001, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 65Z01:
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You have the right idea, get more are in/out and drop the operating temp.
Cut back the spark plug ground electrodes for "free" 10hp more.
You might consider an underdrive crank pulley if funds are available.
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Cut back the spark plug ground electrodes for "free" 10hp more.
You might consider an underdrive crank pulley if funds are available.
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I've been gone awhile, but I'm back. I have the same car with chip, filter, airfoil, and mufflers.
Questions:
What is the trick with cutting the ground electrode on the wires? How? Where?
Do you know how much a set of March UD pulleys is REALLY worth? Yeah, I know they advertise 10-15 HP, but that's a tad hard to believe.
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07-31-2001, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Arisa
Aqua,
Not trying to step on toes, but do you still own all those cars in your sig? If so sell one to free up some capital! Than you can play more. If you do have them all I don't see how you can be so tight on cash. Insurance & up keep must be costing a lot. Just my .02 worth.
BTW Got any pics. of the vette ??? Would love to see it!
Neal
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Not trying to step on toes, but do you still own all those cars in your sig? If so sell one to free up some capital! Than you can play more. If you do have them all I don't see how you can be so tight on cash. Insurance & up keep must be costing a lot. Just my .02 worth.
BTW Got any pics. of the vette ??? Would love to see it!
Neal
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07-31-2001, 11:57 AM
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Aqua,
There is no cheap solutions for Vettes
The best mod I did was the 3.73 gears. There is a price, however. You will loose some top end speed and about a MPG or so. Go with a professional setup or you will have problems. You will also loose that annoying exhaust resonance.
Don't waste your money on the air foil.
Flame Red
There is no cheap solutions for Vettes
The best mod I did was the 3.73 gears. There is a price, however. You will loose some top end speed and about a MPG or so. Go with a professional setup or you will have problems. You will also loose that annoying exhaust resonance.
Don't waste your money on the air foil.
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07-31-2001, 12:07 PM
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O.k. gears 3.73 or 3.54 also since if I do the gears that I can't really afford I won't be able to do anything else for a while. on a stock motor just how much do you think I will pick up, and without a new TC will it really do me any good?also just how much top end will I loose? 10mph?5 what? someone has to know these things and this seems to be the place to go
07-31-2001, 02:42 PM
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I suggested the 3:45's because I found them to be a good comprmize. At 65-75 MPH the engine is turning about 2500 RPM. (a nice sweet spot). The 3:73 are great for track time but wind the engine up too far (in my opinion) for highway cruising. The General put those 2:59 in there for CAFE ratings. The LT1 makes fine HP but you don't feel the torque with the sky high gears. If you change the gears first you might not have the earge for additional changes (for awhile at least).
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07-31-2001, 02:55 PM
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Aqua, Zip products has the dana 36 with 3:54 gears on special for $760.If you are interested, go to the group puchase section. (July)
08-01-2001, 08:38 AM
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Best bang for the buck is the Zip deal for $760.00 If price was no object or if I was going to drag race,with slicks, on a regular basis, then a dana 44 with 3.73 gears would be the choice. There are a lot of people out there running the 36 and with a little care they seem to hold up.