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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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I've been told that when changing RR'S from 1.5's to 1.6's , that it allows your engine to operate at a higher RPM, Lets say from stock 5700 to about 6400 on a LT1. I know that if you raise your rev limiter that u want to stay about 200 RPM'S on the safe side of that rev limit.
But i know that the stock injectors really cant keep up at those higher rpm's (my 95 having 24lb injectors).
is it a good idea or should i say "is it nessasary to move up to the LT4 28lb injectors if i want to benefit from the higher rpm's? and will i need to reprogram my PCM if i do that?
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You're many mods away from needing an injector upgrade. I still run stock ones and have no reason to think I need larger, at this point.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1c44ya
I've been told that when changing RR'S from 1.5's to 1.6's , that it allows your engine to operate at a higher RPM, Lets say from stock 5700 to about 6400 on a LT1. I know that if you raise your rev limiter that u want to stay about 200 RPM'S on the safe side of that rev limit.
But i know that the stock injectors really cant keep up at those higher rpm's (my 95 having 24lb injectors).
is it a good idea or should i say "is it nessasary to move up to the LT4 28lb injectors if i want to benefit from the higher rpm's? and will i need to reprogram my PCM if i do that?
some one take me too SCHOOL!!
i'm all ears
Somebody told you wrong. Roller rockers alone will not gain you an additional 700 usable rpm. To gain that much rpm, you need a cam with more duration. There's a rule of thumb that's along the lines of every 10* more duration moves the hp peak 500rpm (give or take). Of course this assumes the rest of the components are up to the task.

The stock injectors will work fine if you're simply adding roller rockers.

The factory programming tends to be a tad rich. The extra lift from the 1.6s will lean things out a little. This may or may not help as every car is different. The only way to know for sure is to get on a dyno with a wideband o2 sensor and experiment with the programming. Regardless, you'll still be well within range of what the PCM can compensate for as far as idle and part throttle fueling, so that'll be fine.

Put 'em on (a new set of valve springs should be considered too) and enjoy the extra 10 or 15 rwhp they provide.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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where do u have your car shifting at 1to2 and 2to 3 ? what rpm? if u are shifting at the stock shift points then i can see that u wouldnt need the extra fuel, but operating above the stock shift point like 6100 on the 1to2 shift, ccan the stock injectors handle that?

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ok , i've heard some different things , but that sounds sensable. thanks for the schooling
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Those 24lb injectors should be good for upwards of 500HP. Ski_dwn_it and Corkvette are both running 24lb injectors and their engines make around 550-600HP....I am also using 24lb injectors on my 380ci motor. Its all in the tuning and fuel pressure...
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Originally Posted by chriswtx
Those 24lb injectors should be good for upwards of 500HP. Ski_dwn_it and Corkvette are both running 24lb injectors and their engines make around 550-600HP....I am also using 24lb injectors on my 380ci motor. Its all in the tuning and fuel pressure...
True. None the less, one should consider the intended usage when determining injector needs. For drag racing, auto-x, and street driving, the amount of time the engine spends at peak injector duty cycle is miniscule compared to an engine that's used for road racing or track schools. Running injectors at extremely high duty cycles lap after lap is asking for trouble (locked open injectors or burned out injector coils).

As mentioned above, "24lbs/hr" is simply the injector rating at a given fuel pressure. Increasing the fuel pressure makes it "larger" and with proper tuning allows it to be used with higher hp engines while retaining a reasonable duty cycle.

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You have 26lb injectors not 24. In 94 the Corvette got Sequintial (sp) fuel injection and bigger 26lbers in place the the earlier LT1 24lbs. Just a FYI.
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Originally Posted by 96BLKTN
You have 26lb injectors not 24. In 94 the Corvette got Sequintial (sp) fuel injection and bigger 26lbers in place the the earlier LT1 24lbs. Just a FYI.
thanks , i did just recently get that info from a web site that compares the LT1 AND LT4 . looks like u know your stuff
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