Who's added a superram?
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Who's added a superram?
Trying to just get in as much information before doing this.
More specifically if you have added a superram to your car I would be interested as to what if any difficulties you ran into. Iam thinking of adding this to my mostly stock engine right now.
I have already heard from a couple of you, just making sure I haven't overlooked something.
thanks
jeff
More specifically if you have added a superram to your car I would be interested as to what if any difficulties you ran into. Iam thinking of adding this to my mostly stock engine right now.
I have already heard from a couple of you, just making sure I haven't overlooked something.
thanks
jeff
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I put the superram upper and lower intake on my stock '85 vette with 104k miles or so on it. Was a learning experience the 1st time, but I loved the difference it made right away. (I only had bolt-ons mods).
Woke the car right up.
Search the forum for 'superram' to read up on the modifications for easier installation and removal, and other info you might need.
Woke the car right up.
Search the forum for 'superram' to read up on the modifications for easier installation and removal, and other info you might need.
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Mr Nuke....I knew you would reply lol!
Hi...I put this post up and thought you would reply...(thus the point of saying that I have already heard from some people)....I didn't want you thinking I had ignored all your great advise....Iam basically using what you have told me as groundwork and building off of it. Right now you definitely have me seriously considering added the superram to my car.
When you say upper and lower intake, what are you referring to?
the runners and upper plenum (the big pizzabox thing)?
did you also change the stock intake manifold to something else? I know LPE makes a Bigmouth Manifold....but its like $$$ that I just can't afford.
When you say upper and lower intake, what are you referring to?
the runners and upper plenum (the big pizzabox thing)?
did you also change the stock intake manifold to something else? I know LPE makes a Bigmouth Manifold....but its like $$$ that I just can't afford.
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whoah hold it, you seem confused and you're getting ahead of your self! 
The "lower" intake refers to the base manifold....the "upper" means the runners and plenum. BOTH work in concert with each other as far as the intake as an assembly. BUT this intake will work much better if you trash the stock cam and get something 2 steps higher in duration and much higher in lift ( lift = torque = power)...enter the LPE 219 cam for your L98. Also 1.6RR's to bump up that lift even higher to the .560" range. You have full exhaust mods, right? Critical! (starting with long tube headers). How about your cylinder heads? You can wait on the heads, but if you're changing your intake, make full advantage of this by swapping the cam. How much mileage on your vette? After about 60,000-80,000 miles you should most assuredly get new lifters. Water pump changeout. Oil pump changeout. Oh boy we're just getting started! 
Also you'll defintiely want your chiop re-flashed...again. With the onslaught of added air, you'll run the risk of possibly running a tad lean.
Next month I'll be finishing up the entire deal by putting on the Supperram "upper" kit. With the LPE Accel LTR's + ported stock plenum, there's MOREcthan plenty of enough torque and fun as it stands (WAY TON ton more than stock with this current setup)
The "lower" intake refers to the base manifold....the "upper" means the runners and plenum. BOTH work in concert with each other as far as the intake as an assembly. BUT this intake will work much better if you trash the stock cam and get something 2 steps higher in duration and much higher in lift ( lift = torque = power)...enter the LPE 219 cam for your L98. Also 1.6RR's to bump up that lift even higher to the .560" range. You have full exhaust mods, right? Critical! (starting with long tube headers). How about your cylinder heads? You can wait on the heads, but if you're changing your intake, make full advantage of this by swapping the cam. How much mileage on your vette? After about 60,000-80,000 miles you should most assuredly get new lifters. Water pump changeout. Oil pump changeout. Oh boy we're just getting started! Also you'll defintiely want your chiop re-flashed...again. With the onslaught of added air, you'll run the risk of possibly running a tad lean.
Next month I'll be finishing up the entire deal by putting on the Supperram "upper" kit. With the LPE Accel LTR's + ported stock plenum, there's MOREcthan plenty of enough torque and fun as it stands (WAY TON ton more than stock with this current setup)
Last edited by Red Tornado; Nov 18, 2004 at 09:39 PM.
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When he said lower intake, he probably meant the base, which is the intake manifold you asked about afterward.
In order to get the most benefit from the superram, you're going to need to get the manifold, too. It will help with just the superram and runners, but you're going to gain a lot more with the base.
-Joe
In order to get the most benefit from the superram, you're going to need to get the manifold, too. It will help with just the superram and runners, but you're going to gain a lot more with the base.
-Joe
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Originally Posted by Draven
When he said lower intake, he probably meant the base, which is the intake manifold you asked about afterward.
In order to get the most benefit from the superram, you're going to need to get the manifold, too. It will help with just the superram and runners, but you're going to gain a lot more with the base.
-Joe
In order to get the most benefit from the superram, you're going to need to get the manifold, too. It will help with just the superram and runners, but you're going to gain a lot more with the base.
-Joe
yeah, sorry I didn't specify.I am using an accel loewr intake and the LPE superram plenum/runners together. Without the high-flow (Accel/edelbrock or TPIS) lower intake manifold you would be wasting $$ putting the superram plenum/runners on.
Although it is true, to get the best/most out of your car you will need a better cam than stock, I am still using the stock '85 cam and the car ran very low 12's with a slipping tranny.
Other than the Heads, the superram and the longtube headers were the best performance upgrades I've done on the car. (I went 13.3's with stock exhaust, superram and bolt ons)..
There is a tonn of info on superram related stuff on this forum and the thirdgen.org forum.
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Originally Posted by MrNuke
yeah, sorry I didn't specify.I am using an accel loewr intake and the LPE superram plenum/runners together. Without the high-flow (Accel/edelbrock or TPIS) lower intake manifold you would be wasting $$ putting the superram plenum/runners on.
Although it is true, to get the best/most out of your car you will need a better cam than stock, I am still using the stock '85 cam and the car ran very low 12's with a slipping tranny.
Other than the Heads, the superram and the longtube headers were the best performance upgrades I've done on the car. (I went 13.3's with stock exhaust, superram and bolt ons)..
There is a tonn of info on superram related stuff on this forum and the thirdgen.org forum.
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All that and a good tune shoudl get you int he 11's. You will have to do an EXCELLENT porting job on the 113 heads though. LPE does an awesome job on these heads, getting 450+HP out of their 383 Superram 219cammed setups. If you stay 350ci, you will be close, maybe very low 12's, very high 11's. My heads are Dart Iron Eagles race ported to heck, so they flow like crazy.
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