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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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how do i know what my total timing is?? if lets say my base is 6btdc how do i get total??
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Old Nov 22, 2004 | 08:54 PM
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Since you can't duplicate the "total" conditions in your driveway and check it with a timing light, like you could with a mechanical distributor, you're going to need a scanner.

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okay i have the ez link scanner do i have to look at spark advance?? and add base to that?? but if so what rpms do i check it at??
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Total timing is the base timing + the amount of centrifigal advance. Most aftermarket distributors will tell you the amount of advance you can get from them. For example - an MSD Pro billet for my 61 had an advertised advance of anywhere from 18 - 28 degrees (depending on what adv. stop bushing I use) so if I want to run 32 degrees total I need to set my advance at idle to 4 degrees btdc and use the 28 degree bushing or set the advance to 14 degrees and use the 18 degree bushing. If you're running a stock distributor ...... uh ...... uh ...... find out how much advance the stock unit gives from somebody who knows ! LOL
Finding your total timing with a light is really hard but ..... each cylinder gets 45 degrees of timing - put your timing light on the #2 cyl, rev the engine up to about 3k rpm or until you see the timing mark stop advancing. Set it to 13 degrees AFTER top dead center. this will give you 32 degrees total. Not really the best way but in a pinch It will do.
Or you can buy one of those expensive timing lights that have a timing adjustment on them!

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Yes. If you want to know the total, you will have to "race" the car. Then you will have to check ALL the rpms, to find the maximum (total). Any advance shown on the scanner will have to have the base added to it to determine the total.

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Originally Posted by MikeDrum2112
Total timing is the base timing + the amount of centrifigal advance. Most aftermarket distributors will tell you the amount of advance you can get from them. For example - an MSD Pro billet for my 61 had an advertised advance of anywhere from 18 - 28 degrees (depending on what adv. stop bushing I use) so if I want to run 32 degrees total I need to set my advance at idle to 4 degrees btdc and use the 28 degree bushing or set the advance to 14 degrees and use the 18 degree bushing.
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If you're running a stock distributor ...... uh ...... uh ...... find out how much advance the stock unit gives from somebody who knows ! LOL
Finding your total timing with a light is really hard but ..... each cylinder gets 45 degrees of timing - put your timing light on the #2 cyl, rev the engine up to about 3k rpm or until you see the timing mark stop advancing. Set it to 13 degrees AFTER top dead center. this will give you 32 degrees total. Not really the best way but in a pinch It will do.
Or you can buy one of those expensive timing lights that have a timing adjustment on them!

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And how do you intend to duplicate the sensor inputs, MAP and/or MAF and TPS to simulate WOT, while holding a timing light?

Another way, of course, would be to read the chip with programming software.

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okay now i have to contact ski-down-it
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Sorry there CFI / EFI Lost my head. Didn't realize the century had changed.
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