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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Default Changed the oil today and...

... while filling the new K&N oil filter up with oil, I wondered if all those instant oil change shops actually fill the new oil filter up with oil. It was kind of cold out and it took awhile to totally fill the filter.

This weekend I want to put the new balanced thermostat in. I ran at 155F coolant temp in 32F degree weather today. I think the stock thermostat may be stuck open or there is a 160 degree stat in there. When I change the thermostat, do I have to take anything else apart? Looks like a tight squeeze for tools under the AIR pump.
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No they dont put much in the filter, they just lube the threads and put it on. I dont remember taking anything else apart, but i did take the air duct off when i installed my 160.

Do be careful getting the screws out for the tstat, they are likely to break.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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good luck finding one that doesnt do the very minimun, its pretty rare
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When I have mine done I make them fill it with oil up top and then hand it to the guy below...I bring my own K & N Gold filter too....
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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Sorry, but I am missing something. Why fill the oil filter before it is put on the car?
Doesn't it get filled upon the first start-up? I have never heard of pre-filling the filter. Have I been missing something?
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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rws1 What you are missing is running the engine longer, 6 to 9 seconds, longer with zero oil pressure. It takes this much longer to fill the filter and then get to the parts that need oil. Why take a chance? It is easy to just fill the filter first.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Sorry, but I am missing something. Why fill the oil filter before it is put on the car?
Doesn't it get filled upon the first start-up? I have never heard of pre-filling the filter. Have I been missing something?
It help prevents a very momentarily low pressure condition before the engine itself can pressurize the oil filter.
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dice
When I have mine done I make them fill it with oil up top and then hand it to the guy below...I bring my own K & N Gold filter too....
Thats exactly what I do every three thousand miles. They do a great job but I bring my oil (Mobil 1) and my own K & N oil filter and make sure they fill it up.
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
This weekend I want to put the new balanced thermostat in. I ran at 155F coolant temp in 32F degree weather today. I think the stock thermostat may be stuck open or there is a 160 degree stat in there. When I change the thermostat, do I have to take anything else apart? Looks like a tight squeeze for tools under the AIR pump.
Your '88 should be similar to my '89, changing the thermostat is not too bad of a job. If I remember correctly, I had to remove the air intake duct and coolant line from the front of the throttle body to get at one of the thermostat housing bolts. Other than that, it's tight, but doable.

Don't forget to drain your coolant some before starting! I just siphoned out a pitcherful of coolant through the radiator cap, that should get the coolant down underneath the level of the thermostat.

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I watched the oil pressure closely when I started the car, it didn't seem any different then a normal start. Oil pressure came right up and the red warning light did not turn on. Some punk over tightened the filter though and it got pretty crushed being removed. I got to remember to get a 1" wrench for those K&N filters! My set goes up to 7/8", doh! I would think that not filling the filter would cause some wear? Does starting a car that has been sitting for a year cause wear? I'd think a lot of oil would have flowed down off the engine.

That's great with the thermostat! Can I just use RTV on the housing?

I was in a hurry to get to dinner last night, I stopped at a Car Tub washer. Gezz did it do a good job! I got the wash with the Blue Coral. It's to cold here now to wash the car at home. I'm taking insurance off today, it snowed last night! Anyways, that wash really got the car shiney!
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I fill the filter on all three of my cars before installing. I don't know if it helps much, but it can't hurt and it makes me feel better.
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Originally Posted by skeet
rws1 What you are missing is running the engine longer, 6 to 9 seconds, longer with zero oil pressure. It takes this much longer to fill the filter and then get to the parts that need oil. Why take a chance? It is easy to just fill the filter first.
Exactly!! These several seconds of "dry run" time probably cause wear thats equivalent to several thousand miles of normal driving. ALWAYS try to avoid operating the engine with no oil pressure, so filling the filter with oil prior to installiation is a must!
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