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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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My 92 LT1 vette has been in the garage in San Diego for the past 2 weeks not being driven do to the rain we have been getting. The car has never had any startup problems in the past, nothing at all. Yesterday I went into the garage and tried to start it up. It cranks and all the pulleys turn but it wont start. I noticed there was nearly no gas so I put a few gallons of premium in and tried again. BUt still nothing. So I popped the hood and noticed there was some condensation under the hood. Could this be causing the problem? I have left the hood open in hopes of it airing out. Any ideas guys? Please help me, I miss my baby.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Put a charger on the battery. If its been sitting that long, the battery could be soft.

Are you getting spark? Fuel?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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You can smell the fuel if you give the pedal a few pushes. How can I look for the spark? Remove a plug?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:41 PM
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that's one way.

never push the gas on a FI car when starting. It really screws things up.

Remove the wire, from a plug and see if it arcs when someone turns the key.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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I will try that when I get home tonight. Im keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the advice about the pedal on a fuel infjected car. I did know that but forgot cause I was so bothered by the car not starting. If it doesnt spark what does that mean?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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I will try that when I get home tonight. Im keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks for the advice about the pedal on a fuel infjected car. I did know that but forgot cause I was so bothered by the car not starting. If it doesnt spark what does that mean?
I'm thinking about the condensation you noticed. All this moisture could be messing up your Opti-Spark(distributor). Disconnect the hood courtesy lights, leave the hood open for awhile, and let the engine compartment dry out and then try starting it again. How did so much condensation get under the hood? Is it in a garage or just covered parking? Good luck with it...
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Good point... If you have some external lights, use them, too.

A fan might help to move air. Spray some WD40 in the general area of the Opti.

the connectors for the hood lights are down on the inside of the fenders, in front of the tires, above the side marker lights. one on each side.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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Thanks for all the advise. I opened the hood this morning and disconnected the lights. I was thinking the same thing about the opti spark. Its been pouring rain here and San Diego is prone to flooding. A few puddles of water are on the floor of the garage so Im guessing it got real humid in there. Hopefully it has gotten a chance to dry out. It is a real garage not a car port. As for your advice with the WD40, do I spray that on the optispark or just the general area around it?
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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You could have moisture inside the opti spark and it will have to dry out before your engine will start. Spraying WD-40 on the outside of the optispark will not get rid of the moisture inside and I wouldn't bother spraying anything on the outside of the optispark.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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OK. My coworker just gave me a hairdryer to try and dry the damn thing out. I tried starting it again this morning with no luck. I didnt get a chance to look for spark because I didnt have anybody to help me out. Hopefully tonight. Any other ideas in the meantime?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Check the coil and ignitor assembly. They do quit. Also check the coil wire, they will chafe and ground out.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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If you don't have a fuel pressure guage you need to check for pressure too. Do this, key on to let the fp to pressurize the system.. You should hear it run for about 2 seconds then shut off. Then push the little tab in on the bottom of the schrader valve ( right side of fuel rail about midway covered by a cap) to see if you have fp @ the fuel rail. Have some rags handy to soak up the gas. If you have fp, then like said above, check for spark. With all that condensation, it very well maybe be that things need to dry out.
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bogus
Check the coil and ignitor assembly. They do quit. Also check the coil wire, they will chafe and ground out.

Before you wear down your battery, check for a spark! The fact that you can smell gasoline is not a good sign, and could indicate a no-spark condition. Also, follow bogus advice should you NOT see a spark .

BTW, sorry to hear about all the flooding and rain....

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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Thanks for the continued advice. I have a buddy coming over to help me with some of this stuff tonight. What exactly should I look for on the coil and assembly? Also is there a way to tell if the optispark is wet without taking it all apart? I hear that is a pain in the A. Thanks again for all of the advise guys. I love this site and dont know what I would do without it.
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I had a similiar issue a few weeks ago. I tried to start my '92 and it cranked, but wouldn't fire. I could smell gas, so I knew it wasn't a "no fuel" issue. The problem ended up being the EGR valve sticking. I manually exercised it and the car fired right up. I haven't had any trouble since.

Just something to try if nothing else works,

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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Ahhh thatnks for the idea. Where exactly is the EGR valve. Sorry if thats a stupid question.
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Originally Posted by 92Cruiser
I had a similiar issue a few weeks ago. I tried to start my '92 and it cranked, but wouldn't fire. I could smell gas, so I knew it wasn't a "no fuel" issue. The problem ended up being the EGR valve sticking. I manually exercised it and the car fired right up. I haven't had any trouble since.

Just something to try if nothing else works,

John
When you say "manually excersised" the EGR valve, do you mean you put your fingers inside the pressed on the diaphram, or suck on the vacuum line to the EGR ?????
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Got it started last night!! THANKS FOR ALL OF THE HELP GUYS!
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