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Old 07-07-2006, 08:48 PM
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Not sure if anyone noticed but '07 Ford GT500's, a sub 45K MSRP car, are selling for $70K+. I have to admit that I really wanted to pick up a GT500 and I would have paid MSRP, but jeez. I can't even imagine someone willing to pay more for a mustang than a Z06?? But I guess I'm biased.

I wonder if this will be like the 1990 ZR-1 changing hands for $100K, then dealers were giving them away for 55K less than two years later...


Old 07-07-2006, 09:21 PM
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Maybe....but when the GT500 can hit 180+ and stay there all day it can be compared.
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I agree...they are not comparable....supercars of today still struggle and most fall far short of the king of the hill 16 year old watermark.... it is still my favorite car on the planet just in front of a new callaway ZO6.
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Originally Posted by BAD ZR1
Not sure if anyone noticed but '07 Ford GT500's, a sub 45K MSRP car, are selling for $70K+. I have to admit that I really wanted to pick up a GT500 and I would have paid MSRP, but jeez. I can't even imagine someone willing to pay more for a mustang than a Z06?? But I guess I'm biased.

I wonder if this will be like the 1990 ZR-1 changing hands for $100K, then dealers were giving them away for 55K less than two years later...


With a GVW of almost 2 tons, and the vert being over 2 tons, this car seriously needs to go on a diet.
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With a GVW of almost 2 tons, and the vert being over 2 tons, this car seriously needs to go on a diet.
Amen to that and they don't even have the IRS anymore as the weight excuse. The most recent mag feature could only squeeze 12.90's with 500hp. I know they are apples and oranges, it's just amazing that they are selling for so much over MSRP and it blows me away that someone would pay more for a GT500 than a new Z06

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I have a feeling supply is gonna catch demand pretty fast
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Amen to that and they don't even have the IRS anymore as the weight excuse. The most recent mag feature could only squeeze 12.90's with 500hp. I know they are apples and oranges, it's just amazing that they are selling for so much over MSRP and it blows me away that someone would pay more for a GT500 than a new Z06

The newest Fast Fords mustang mag did an article on them, be-littling the Car and Driver where it lost to the C6 Z51. They are quoting the best time of like 12.2 or 12.4 at like 117mph. Said everything on the car was stock. Still, they needed to have a C6 Z51 there at the track to compare apples to apples. I find those numbers a little skeptical.
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It was 12.2 that they ran, but that was also with a hot shoe in the car....and I don't trust the "stock" crap they claim
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Originally Posted by BAD ZR1
Not sure if anyone noticed but '07 Ford GT500's, a sub 45K MSRP car, are selling for $70K+. I have to admit that I really wanted to pick up a GT500 and I would have paid MSRP, but jeez. I can't even imagine someone willing to pay more for a mustang than a Z06?? But I guess I'm biased.

I wonder if this will be like the 1990 ZR-1 changing hands for $100K, then dealers were giving them away for 55K less than two years later...


Ford simply has a winner with the Mustang... other than the dark days of the Mustang II... If you look at the history of the Mustang you will notice it has been that way much of the time since 1964. Fords timing and marketing has been spot on and thier customer base got a 3 year head start on the Camaro and Firebird...

Corvettes and Mustangs aren't really in the same league anyway, are they ?

Shelbys being modified at the Shelby plant in Vegas are definately a step up from the off the showroom GT cars imho.

The Mustang advantage in market share is working like compound interest for Ford.

If I could have any Mustang, it would be the Boss 429... I wonder if Ford will ever try to work that into their marketing strategy like Mopar did with the hemi ?

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I'd love to run into one of these "Super Mustangs" on the street. He'd better have his sticky tires on, or He's toast.
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Originally Posted by dallas916
Maybe....but when the GT500 can hit 180+ and stay there all day it can be compared.
Right on the money Ken. That's what everyone seems to forget when they are comparing cars. 1/4 mile cars they are not, but they can still run with the best of 'em. Had the LT-5 continued to evolve, can you imagine where it would be today?
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Do you guys think that alot of the appeal and traffic for the GT500 could be belated nostalgia buys from "baby boomers" who couldn't afford the real Shelby GT's back in the 60's? Lord knows unless you have a fat wallet you're not buying any Shelby product from the 60's now...unless you have at least 100K to spend.

I know when I was in high school, 66 to 70, man those GT350's & 500's and the A/C Cobras were the cat's a$$. If you had one there was not much that could hang with you, even if you found something that cost as much as one of those cars. They weren't cheap! I knew a Ford Fleet Sales manager, my pop's friend, that bought a 67 427 Cobra new, that car was a touch over 7K!!! That's a ton of cash back in the late 60's. He still has the car and it still is one mean item, it can still give a fair account of itself against today's sports cars...only thing is that car is seriously lacking in creature comforts!


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my buddy just bought a 05 stang I,m no stang guy & even though he bought the lower hp at 500 , they also had a 650 hp, can't comment on that one. Unbelievable nice car. chack out dreamcarfactory.com
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Magazines arent given just "any car" to test, you can bet your azz they are optimized/tuned before they are dumped in the hands of these hotshoes. JMO.
I bet the average driver hits a low 13, maybe a high 12 in one.
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The people paying a nearly 100% premium for a car that's (no offense) a flash-in-the-pan, will experience painful resale value in short order.

Heck, I had real trouble paying a few hundred over sticker for my Z, but some low-mile used ones are still going @ or just above sticker; But these UBER-cars certainly should command their price because they can compete w/ cars costing 2, 3 and 4x their cost--not a 4k lb barely sub-13 sec. vehicle that can be purchased w/ a 6-cyl and steel wheels on a base platform.

The GT500 can't quite keep up w/ Z51 C6s that costs roughly the same--and it's a Mustang (again, no offense to 'Stangers)...

I believe the low-mile, mint '95 ZRs will be the next 'big-block mid-years' in 10-15 yrs
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Originally Posted by Trizney
The newest Fast Fords mustang mag did an article on them, be-littling the Car and Driver where it lost to the C6 Z51. They are quoting the best time of like 12.2 or 12.4 at like 117mph. Said everything on the car was stock. Still, they needed to have a C6 Z51 there at the track to compare apples to apples. I find those numbers a little skeptical.
EVERY SINGLE TIME they test a F.O.R.D. product, they get outrageously fast times, as in 1 second faster than "mainstream" mags. I too find their results highly suspect and NOT representative of what to expect from said Ford products in the real world.

Sorry, but IMO anyone giving $70K for a GT500 should probably have their head examined. Have fun selling it for 1/2 that or less in 5 years.

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