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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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I have a 1991 ZR1 that when I bought it the keys were missing and GM has no records on the keys resistance values for the VIN #. I have been trying repair this problem off and on for about six months and am close to setting fire to it. I was told that you could measure the resistance on your two wire VATS connector that goes to the CCM and that resistance is 4.3 k ohms. All of the resistance tables that I have found do not list this as a correct resistance. Need some help please.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Install a vats bypass /eliminator. About $15.00
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Any locksmith should be able to fix it for you. They use an "interigator" that mimics the 15 resistance codes. Remove the ignition key assembly and they can get the key cut code off of it. The door key can be made off of the glovebox key (there are only four cuts on it, but by adding them they can come up with the fifth cut). Should cost about $200.
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PM "WEGONE" He knows how to figure out which key you need. He has access to a vats interrogator, and I think you just need a shop with one of those to read it. Then you buy the key and waallaa!
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Originally Posted by emc_mechanic
I have a 1991 ZR1 that when I bought it the keys were missing and GM has no records on the keys resistance values for the VIN #. I have been trying repair this problem off and on for about six months and am close to setting fire to it. I was told that you could measure the resistance on your two wire VATS connector that goes to the CCM and that resistance is 4.3 k ohms. All of the resistance tables that I have found do not list this as a correct resistance. Need some help please.

Where are you located? Do you have a key code that will "rotate" the ignition cylinder?
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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instead of wating 6 months you could have got a key cut for the ignition or changed the ignition switch, go n ebay and buy each of the 15 keys and have them cut to the ignition and you would figure it out that way.
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Originally Posted by emc_mechanic
I have a 1991 ZR1 and that resistance is 4.3 k ohms.


http://www.joestradingpost.com/vats/89_passkey.htm


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Originally Posted by emc_mechanic
I have a 1991 ZR1 that when I bought it the keys were missing and GM has no records on the keys resistance values for the VIN #. I have been trying repair this problem off and on for about six months and am close to setting fire to it. I was told that you could measure the resistance on your two wire VATS connector that goes to the CCM and that resistance is 4.3 k ohms. All of the resistance tables that I have found do not list this as a correct resistance. Need some help please.
Wouldn't 4.3 K OHMS converted to just OHMS = key code #1?
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Originally Posted by emc_mechanic
I was told that you could measure the resistance on your two wire VATS connector that goes to the CCM and that resistance is 4.3 k ohms. All of the resistance tables that I have found do not list this as a correct resistance. Need some help please.
No, you measure the resistance of the resistor in the key. Applying an ohmmeter to the VATS connector could cause additional problems because the ohmmeter has a small voltage at the probe tips which COULD fry the CCM. Maybe.

I thought the dealers had a gadget with the 15 resistors that could be used as a trial and error way of finding the correct resistance value.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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on my 90 i took the blue and white wire out of the ecm striped it and solder a wire on it. put it to ground. now the switch is always on with the key on or off bypassing the switch !!!
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