Mr. Gizmo

Watching B-J on TV broadcast from South Florida fair grounds this morning several cars passed through at what i thought were very low prices. the economy really seems to be hitting them all. or maybe they were just unrealistically priced like the stocks on the Nasdaq before the big tech wreck in 1999/2000 time frame.

A beautiful and perfect 1994 admiral blue Zr1 with 11k miles just rolled through and sold for 35k.

Saw a beautiful '66 tripower GTO with full documentation and authenticated by the pontiac historical society for mid 30's. 3 years ago that car would have been going for 2 to 3 times that at B-J. / 1969 trans am convertible 30k.

perfectly restored and documented 69 350 corvette 29k.

the ceiling seems to be about 35k on everything that is rolling through this morning. - nice stuff.

The days of seeing 100 to 200k stuff seems to be history. values are coming back to earth.

xlr8nflorida

Yeah and once Obama gets out of office and this economy turns around it will be back to normal smooth sailing.

The market is cyclical and its down now and probably will be for some time. People forget just like gas prices, it won't be long before they are up there in price again and people will be complaining.

Polo-1

626.1 94 ZR-1 Bright Aqua.... not Admiral Blue

Mr. Gizmo

caught the middle of the auction. looked admiral blue to me. i stand corrected.

guinnessdood

A REAL 69 T/A Convertible? There were only 8 made. 697 TOTAL 69 T/As of which 8 were convertibles. It MUSt have been a clone.

OK I went out and looked it up...it's not even a clone...just a nice car.

Summary: A frame-off restoration on a 1969 Pontiac convertible. Best of everything, documented with tons of receipts. Only test miles, in museum for many years. Georgia car.
Details: Pro-built 464cid/525hp big block, Richmond 6-speed manual transmission, 12-bolt posi-traction rear, "JL8" Corvette disc brakes, factory air, power steering, power brakes and power top. Pro-touring suspension, front and rear sway bars and poly-graphite suspension bushings. Appearance re-creation of only 8 Trans Am convertibles built in 1969.

Mr. Gizmo

still a great deal. - far less probably 1/3rd to 1/2 the cost then what the previous owner invested.

bb62

This is only true of cars being brought to places like BJ. Nobody wants to take a high dollar value car there anymore because it's at best a crapshoot to getting the value out of the car. I know of plenty of quality cars still selling for large dollars - it's just that they are primarily private sales.

Cdn ZR1 95

Although a little weak that is not bad in the current market for the 94Z. Hadn't checked if that included buyers premium or not either.

mgg

How in the world can anybody in their right mind pay $37,500.00 for a 1976 Trans-am with a 454ci motor making a whopping 200hp out of a station wagon and the announcers going gaga over it. A 1990 ZR-1 with 37000 miles goes for $16500. Am I missing something!! The Dbag commentary about how any run of the mill C6 will walk it. Try putting a 69 Z28 against a new one or a 1990 911 turbo against a new one. What is this idiot thinking! Instead of trying to embarass the car Steve, why not disclose the facts. This car was as big of a shock to automotive world as the new ZR1 is today. Lets talk about the records it holds, world challenge wins under Pirate racing, technology gained that is used today. No , we only hear hoe people paid premiums for them and got burned. I,ll be honest, I am sick of it! The 1990 ZR-1 is one of the most significant cars in corvette history and instead of garnering praise it is degrades like a stepchild. I can only handle so much of the so called experts opinion on what is valuble and what isn't.
Sorry to be on my soap box but this really got to me.
Mike

Mr. Gizmo

- if the auctioneers would have recited some of this history while this car and other c4 zr1's were on the auction block BJ would have got much higher bids. - the 24 hour record - the automobile magazine comparo of the c4 zr1 against the porsche 928 and testarosa etcc etc. - bunch of dumb A$$'s

Z51JEFF

Yep,4 4-speeds and 4 autos.Not to hijack your thread here but I got a story.Years ago a friend knew this old guy that had a 1969 TransAm Coupe.This guy was a racer in the 60s and Pontiac sold him the car for $1,tax deal whatever.The guy was super nice,SMOKED LIKE A TRAIN,smoked from the time he answered the front door to the time we said our goodbys.He takes us for a ride through the Niles Canyon here in Fremont.At one point we were going 120,guy smokin,so many cigarette butts in the ashtray they were overflowing onto the console.This car wasnt beat but you could tell it was drivin from day one.The car was sold years ago.With the rarity of these cars Id like to find the current owner and share these pictures.Thats the owner standing next to the car,lighting a smoke!This was one of my most memorable car experiences.Not that I got to check out a 69 T/A but the fact that I wasn't killed.Whats odd about these cars,just about everyone Ive seen in old file pictures,the left stripe wasnt straight.[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]

BacknBlack

The economy will turn around when Obama does what? Have you been in a hole the last 5 years of the Bush Administration?

corvette95

[QUOTE=BacknBlack;1573646014]The economy will turn around when Obama does what? Have you been in a hole the last 5 years of the Bush Administration?[/QUOTE


You might give Glenn Beck a listen

BacknBlack

[QUOTE=corvette95;1573646703]Glenn Beck aka Harold Hill, acts like that for ratings. He's an er-rational,emotional Ideologue. I lost all interest in him when he called Obama a racist and claimed Obama didn't like 'white culture'. Can somebody explain to me what 'white culture' is? There are different flavors to white people and all have different cultures and customs. For example, Italians, Germans, French, Irish, Scots.. ext. That was a blanketed racist statement against white people if anything else!

His hatred for liberals, government and 'socialism' has blinded him along with the rest of his cohorts. The residing of Glass-Steagall and unbridled hedging has more to do with the mess Wall street has put us in more so than Obama ever has and hopefully our congressmen will remember who they work for and reinstall these regulations back on wall street. Oh, by the way, $40 of the now $83 dollars for a barrel of crude is the fault of Goldman-Sachs and their hedging on commodities.

Hey, I bet GB won't talk about that. Well, I will.

http://www.bankingmyway.com/save/son..._ven=bmwunited

MR.LT1

zr1fred

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corvette95

[QUOTE=BacknBlack;1573648153][QUOTE=corvette95;1573646703]

Glenn Beck aka Harold Hill, acts like that for ratings. He's an er-rational,emotional Ideologue. I lost all interest in him when he called Obama a racist and claimed Obama didn't like 'white culture'. Can somebody explain to me what 'white culture' is? There are different flavors to white people and all have different cultures and customs. For example, Italians, Germans, French, Irish, Scots.. ext. That was a blanketed racist statement against white people if anything else!

His hatred for liberals, government and 'socialism' has blinded him along with the rest of his cohorts. The residing of Glass-Steagall and unbridled hedging has more to do with the mess Wall street has put us in more so than Obama ever has and hopefully our congressmen will remember who they work for and reinstall these regulations back on wall street. Oh, by the way, $40 of the now $83 dollars for a barrel of crude is the fault of Goldman-Sachs and their hedging on commodities.

Hey, I bet GB won't talk about that. Well, I will.

http://www.bankingmyway.com/save/son..._ven=bmwunited[/QUOTE

How about that tanning bed tax....whom does that affect? Obama should look at himself in the same light he looks at the Cambridge police.

How about him hiring self proclaimed communist to serve in the White House. How about promising not to raise taxes on incomes under $200000 then doing just that. How about giving speeches promising all debates be broadcast on Cspan then changing his mind? How about giving speeches on global warming knowing the scientist lied and the data was faulty? How about bribing senators to vote for his health care plan. You sir need to stop watching headlines and think for yourself.

bb62

$35K for a 94 with 11k miles seems OK. Add the 10% buyers commission and you the buyer is paying $38.5K. Now walk to an under 10K mileage price by adding another 10% and you get - $42.4K - also about right. Now add another 10% for the walk to a low mileage 95 and you get - $46.6 - also about right in this market.

bb62

[QUOTE=corvette95;1573650388][QUOTE=BacknBlack;1573648153]While this post has very little to do with Corvettes, just a few comments:
1. Glass Steagall and hedging has little to do with the mess we are in. All of out current problem lie with the extraordinary trade deficit we have foisted upon ourselves. While Glass Steagall was meant to prevent the detonation of another great depression, it wasn't the underlying cause. What is killing America, and will do so continually is the lack of manufacturing capability and out penchant for purchasing goods made overseas. Even Obama with his recent oil drilling statements has probably come to realize that. Neither party, however, is focused on the trade deficit because in ingrown vested interests. That needs to change - and quickly before we become a third world economy.
2. You are looking at Glen Beck all wrong (though I agree that he goes over the top with his delivery). He has rationally noted that America seems have lots of loonies on the far left who middle America will slowly placate just to keep them quiet - and placating them means a slow walk to the left. Beck has noted that the same strategy will probably work in the opposite direction if someone is out there shouting loud enough. He has decided to become that voice.

BacknBlack

[QUOTE=corvette95;1573650388][QUOTE=BacknBlack;1573648153]I do think for myself. I'm an independent. I'm not stuck up on a useless, man made, humanistic ideology. I don't care if its left or right, just as long as it works! And for every claim you make on Obama, I can make 2 on W. It's worthless to nitpick. Its great for political theater, bad for getting anything done.