AES 450 ci LT5
#24
Racer
I spoke recently with Mike from AES Racing. He think balancing the crank could be a challenge by a 450 displacement.
When a solution can be found, why not to try even a 454 LT5?
Sam
When a solution can be found, why not to try even a 454 LT5?
Sam
#25
The "441" are 4.125" stroke by 4.125" bore.
The "454" is once again a 4.00" stroke but the bore is huge at 4.250"
I am guessing Reynolds wrap will not make any aluminum foil that thick for the Siamese sleeves.
Pete, Mark, Bob G anyone's thoughts? Is there enough material to sustain that big of a bore in the LT5 without cementing the block?
Last edited by cvette98pacecar; 08-14-2013 at 11:25 PM.
#27
Heck it not like a need longevity. 3000 miles would last me a life time at 8 miles a weekend. 6 or 7 times a year.
#28
Melting Slicks
#29
NCM Lifetime # 982
Too much stroke = too much side loading. Reduced durability and a larger H/P loss.
If I had to do it over again , 380-402 is where I'd go. "Econo" stroker crank and big bore. Concentrate on the breathing side , porting/cam combo. is where the H/P is made.
IMO FWIW.
If I had to do it over again , 380-402 is where I'd go. "Econo" stroker crank and big bore. Concentrate on the breathing side , porting/cam combo. is where the H/P is made.
IMO FWIW.
#30
Le Mans Master
the 390 has enough stroke, I would like the bigger bore of the AES liners and have pete work his magic on the heads and cam timing
#31
NCM Lifetime # 982
AES closed deck O ring grooved to handle increased cylinder pressure for
NO2 boost etc.
NO2 boost etc.
Last edited by FU; 08-15-2013 at 08:50 AM.
#32
Team Owner
#34
NCM Lifetime # 982
Hey Doc. Pete has a 4 bolt engine.............................
#36
Racer
The Stroke is the same that is in the "427" 4.00" stroke by 4.125" bore.
The "441" are 4.125" stroke by 4.125" bore.
The "454" is once again a 4.00" stroke but the bore is huge at 4.250"
I am guessing Reynolds wrap will not make any aluminum foil that thick for the Siamese sleeves.
Pete, Mark, Bob G anyone's thoughts? Is there enough material to sustain that big of a bore in the LT5 without cementing the block?
The "441" are 4.125" stroke by 4.125" bore.
The "454" is once again a 4.00" stroke but the bore is huge at 4.250"
I am guessing Reynolds wrap will not make any aluminum foil that thick for the Siamese sleeves.
Pete, Mark, Bob G anyone's thoughts? Is there enough material to sustain that big of a bore in the LT5 without cementing the block?
This configuration keep my mind since over 1 year busy. I also spoke with Pete about this idea.
As told before I wouldn't mind to build such a engine when in the block is enough space for the big stroke and the crank can be balanced. The additional question is how to feed the huge cylinders with enough natural aspirated air? Maybe to go with 252 degree inlet cams and keep the secondaries in for better idling but with 40 mm butterflies?
I have in my garage a set of LT5 heads with 40.6 mm inlet and 37 mm outlet valves and bigger valve seats and very big ports.
Last edited by SAM/CH ZR-1; 08-15-2013 at 12:52 PM.
#37
Le Mans Master
#38
Le Mans Master
on the other hand, the closed deck liners are superior and would prepare for a boosted application down the road. hmmmm......
thoughts from those that went down this road? are you all using JE or diamond pistons?
I think my stroke is 3.875, and so I need to measure the rod length and see what piston I might need
one thing for sure, I miss the lsv, it's like lt5 wot withdrawl. Anyone need a ZR-1 or vette transported to carlisle? I pay the gas.
#39
Tech Contributor
#40
Le Mans Master
With a 4.165 bore and 4.165 stroke it would have a 454 displacement.
This configuration keep my mind since over 1 year busy. I also spoke with Pete about this idea.
As told before I wouldn't mind to build such a engine when in the block is enough space for the big stroke and the crank can be balanced. The additional question is how to feed the huge cylinders with enough natural aspirated air? Maybe to go with 252 degree inlet cams and keep the secondaries in for better idling but with 40 mm butterflies?
I have in my garage a set of LT5 heads with 40.6 mm inlet and 37 mm outlet valves and bigger valve seats and very big ports.
This configuration keep my mind since over 1 year busy. I also spoke with Pete about this idea.
As told before I wouldn't mind to build such a engine when in the block is enough space for the big stroke and the crank can be balanced. The additional question is how to feed the huge cylinders with enough natural aspirated air? Maybe to go with 252 degree inlet cams and keep the secondaries in for better idling but with 40 mm butterflies?
I have in my garage a set of LT5 heads with 40.6 mm inlet and 37 mm outlet valves and bigger valve seats and very big ports.
Frankie did a big 441 and I think the big bore and less stroke combo would make almost as much zots and live to tell about it
the idea of a 427 has a certain appeal
I'm curious how well the big liner motors are lasting. the sad truth is there is scant data on strokers
I just pulled apart the LSV and was pleased to see minimal wear after about 86k o hard miles
would have lived much longer but I popped a HG due to MANY heat cycles around 240 and a popped rad hose that "did it in"
the HG was likely leaking for a while and I was "blaming" the samco hoses
bottom of liner # 6 had a weird wear mark, pistons look good, but it's time for new liners
the big liners look great but I'm afraid they are faster than my $