How dose ZR! power hold up these days?
05-25-2018, 08:56 AM
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Hopefully done right? Are there many shops specializing in building / modding an LT5? I know an engine is an engine but.
05-25-2018, 09:02 AM
#23
Hmm...Very interesting.....Like I said I would have to take a C7-Z for a ride.....Really don't know anyone that actually owns one.....Maybe my best shot is pulling up to the dealer with the Z and seeing if the salesman will let me take it by myself.....Don't think that may happen though....I would also consider a C6-Z but it seems to me they are priced similar to the C7-Z......
05-25-2018, 09:12 AM
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05-25-2018, 09:14 AM
#25
Hmm...Very interesting.....Like I said I would have to take a C7-Z for a ride.....Really don't know anyone that actually owns one.....Maybe my best shot is pulling up to the dealer with the Z and seeing if the salesman will let me take it by myself.....Don't think that may happen though....I would also consider a C6-Z but it seems to me they are priced similar to the C7-Z......
05-25-2018, 02:05 PM
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i actually prefer a non-blown car. The c6z06 or c4-zr1 is a much more enjoyable driving experience for me. I like the high rpm rush of the lt5 and ls7. Gm really scrimped on the blower on the lt4 blower it chokes over 5500 rpm as the car is trying to gulp air through a straw with the tiny 1.7 liter blower. Maybe they did this purposely as a marketing ploy sticking the bigger blower on the c7zr1 hoping c7z06 owners would trade up.
the c6zr-1 are holding there own value wise. To get a nice one you are mid 50’s to mid 60’s. You can get a very nice c6z06 for 35 to 42k. The c6z06’s have a well known head issue of dropping valves due to a concentricity issue / angle of the valve placement in the head. for that matter the c6zr1 most likely has this problem too as these cars are also know to drop valves. The issue can be addressed for 3k by ahp. While it’s apart Throw another 3k in for a cam and some bolt ons and you have car that will run down a c6zr1 , c7z06 and even c7zr1.
In my opinion The c6z06 is more a true sports car , very light, and nimble with tasteful styling.
i have posted these thoughts as a real life c7z owner on the c7z06 forum and have been crucified.
You may ask , why did I change. I had the c6z06 for some time and thought I needed a change, my old lady liked the styling of the c7z and the removable roof. And I got a great price for my c6z and a smoking deal on the c7z and at the time it seemed like the right thing to do.
in summary they are all good cars and a performance bargain, you just like some better then others.
the c6zr-1 are holding there own value wise. To get a nice one you are mid 50’s to mid 60’s. You can get a very nice c6z06 for 35 to 42k. The c6z06’s have a well known head issue of dropping valves due to a concentricity issue / angle of the valve placement in the head. for that matter the c6zr1 most likely has this problem too as these cars are also know to drop valves. The issue can be addressed for 3k by ahp. While it’s apart Throw another 3k in for a cam and some bolt ons and you have car that will run down a c6zr1 , c7z06 and even c7zr1.
In my opinion The c6z06 is more a true sports car , very light, and nimble with tasteful styling.
i have posted these thoughts as a real life c7z owner on the c7z06 forum and have been crucified.
You may ask , why did I change. I had the c6z06 for some time and thought I needed a change, my old lady liked the styling of the c7z and the removable roof. And I got a great price for my c6z and a smoking deal on the c7z and at the time it seemed like the right thing to do.
in summary they are all good cars and a performance bargain, you just like some better then others.
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05-25-2018, 03:30 PM
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i actually prefer a non-blown car. The c6z06 or c4-zr1 is a much more enjoyable driving experience for me. I like the high rpm rush of the lt5 and ls7. Gm really scrimped on the blower on the lt4 blower it chokes over 5500 rpm as the car is trying to gulp air through a straw with the tiny 1.7 liter blower. Maybe they did this purposely as a marketing ploy sticking the bigger blower on the c7zr1 hoping c7z06 owners would trade up.
the c6zr-1 are holding there own value wise. To get a nice one you are mid 50’s to mid 60’s. You can get a very nice c6z06 for 35 to 42k. The c6z06’s have a well known head issue of dropping valves due to a concentricity issue / angle of the valve placement in the head. for that matter the c6zr1 most likely has this problem too as these cars are also know to drop valves. The issue can be addressed for 3k by ahp. While it’s apart Throw another 3k in for a cam and some bolt ons and you have car that will run down a c6zr1 , c7z06 and even c7zr1.
In my opinion The c6z06 is more a true sports car , very light, and nimble with tasteful styling.
i have posted these thoughts as a real life c7z owner on the c7z06 forum and have been crucified.
You may ask , why did I change. I had the c6z06 for some time and thought I needed a change, my old lady liked the styling of the c7z and the removable roof. And I got a great price for my c6z and a smoking deal on the c7z and at the time it seemed like the right thing to do.
in summary they are all good cars and a performance bargain, you just like some better then others.
I got a decent deal on my Z about four years ago....Knock wood the car comes with no mechanical issues so far and is modded by me to my tastes.......Not crazy about the fidanza noise but it just goes with the mods I have....
I like the C6Z06 and I think they are a good bargain now.....I'm sure that 427 is a torque monster, more suited for my driving style.....Before I do anything with my Z I would have to drive each car I'm interested in to get a good idea.....
Cheers.....
05-25-2018, 06:24 PM
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Is the car officially up for sale as of now? No, but if I got like 23K for the car I would sell it......Aside from the seat bladders not functioning, 2 rear amps that are out and two leaky rear shocks , which I have replacements for , its trouble free.....Don't even need any fluid changes....
Evolution motorsports did most of the performance work.....Call Dempsey if your curious at evolution motorsports......Tell him Johns 91 Z.....
Cheers....
Evolution motorsports did most of the performance work.....Call Dempsey if your curious at evolution motorsports......Tell him Johns 91 Z.....
Cheers....
05-25-2018, 10:43 PM
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A few examples hold up very well........my car went 2 MPH faster at the Texas mile, than a C6 ZR-1 and as we all know they are supercharged, and mine is naturally aspirated....of course this vid is pretty old, but Frank's laugh never gets old..........
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05-27-2018, 09:24 AM
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10.6 with the manual trans is right up there with the c7zr-1 automatic. You’d probably walk the c7zr-1 in a roll on race
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05-27-2018, 12:01 PM
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My first reaction to this was..."CHA! Yeah right!" I was thinking that the new ZR1 should be trapping in the high 130's or even kissing 140.
NOT EVEN CLOSE
Didn't Ranger trap in the 130's with a box stock C6 ZR1? I couldn't find it but HE DID TRAP 130 in a 505 hp C6 Z06. I don't get why the new ZR1 isn't going any faster than it has so far. Jim's car would put one down, I'd say.
NOT EVEN CLOSE
Didn't Ranger trap in the 130's with a box stock C6 ZR1? I couldn't find it but HE DID TRAP 130 in a 505 hp C6 Z06. I don't get why the new ZR1 isn't going any faster than it has so far. Jim's car would put one down, I'd say.
05-27-2018, 01:29 PM
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10.6 is haulin azz. Jim is that thing running again?
OP go drive both then you wont wonder
Unless someone is real well versed in cars the ZR-1 looks to most like an old C4 not many really know about them. Even new you almos never saw one they were stuck in garages right off the bat most of them.
Can it keep up stock, eh kinda but dont expect too much. Not many that work on the motors, a competent porter can do one up just fine, no magic to it. Its finding one that truly knows.
Id want one that has at least heads/intake/headers and gears before I started choosing off cars. Theres always someone faster but the plain jane look imo makes it fun.
They are for the most part a 13 sec car stock. When I test drove mine (had 4.10 gears)It didnt impress, just felt "thats the way a stock vette should feel". Shes all done by 63,.6500. Running them any higher is a waste.
OP go drive both then you wont wonder
Unless someone is real well versed in cars the ZR-1 looks to most like an old C4 not many really know about them. Even new you almos never saw one they were stuck in garages right off the bat most of them.
Can it keep up stock, eh kinda but dont expect too much. Not many that work on the motors, a competent porter can do one up just fine, no magic to it. Its finding one that truly knows.
Id want one that has at least heads/intake/headers and gears before I started choosing off cars. Theres always someone faster but the plain jane look imo makes it fun.
They are for the most part a 13 sec car stock. When I test drove mine (had 4.10 gears)It didnt impress, just felt "thats the way a stock vette should feel". Shes all done by 63,.6500. Running them any higher is a waste.
05-27-2018, 02:30 PM
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The Lingenfelter C4 415 ZR-1 was/is truly a benchmark car....according to these articles, the C4 is actually a full 2.3 seconds quicker 0-150-0 than the C6 ZR1....this is an astonishing and remarkable comparison in my mind given the huge ceramic rotors, the super charger, modern engine management systems, etc.......C6 ZR1s tend to run in the low 11s in stock form, and never run in the 10s.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...bo-comparison/
https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...15-zr-1-page-5
it is in the best hands...I'll keep you posted.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevr...bo-comparison/
https://www.caranddriver.com/compari...15-zr-1-page-5
Jim is that thing running again?
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05-27-2018, 02:49 PM
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My first reaction to this was..."CHA! Yeah right!" I was thinking that the new ZR1 should be trapping in the high 130's or even kissing 140.
NOT EVEN CLOSE
Didn't Ranger trap in the 130's with a box stock C6 ZR1? I couldn't find it but HE DID TRAP 130 in a 505 hp C6 Z06. I don't get why the new ZR1 isn't going any faster than it has so far. Jim's car would put one down, I'd say.
NOT EVEN CLOSE
Didn't Ranger trap in the 130's with a box stock C6 ZR1? I couldn't find it but HE DID TRAP 130 in a 505 hp C6 Z06. I don't get why the new ZR1 isn't going any faster than it has so far. Jim's car would put one down, I'd say.
My opinion is for a streetable front engine rear wheel drive car that can be a day to day driver there is a sweet spot and that is 3100 to 3200 lbs and 500 maybe 600 horsepower. After that it’s just bragging rights for the dyno queens.
Jim’s 415 is a unique and collectible car. That one is a keeper and was a ground breaker.
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05-27-2018, 04:10 PM
#36
10.6 is haulin azz. Jim is that thing running again?
OP go drive both then you wont wonder
Unless someone is real well versed in cars the ZR-1 looks to most like an old C4 not many really know about them. Even new you almos never saw one they were stuck in garages right off the bat most of them.
Can it keep up stock, eh kinda but dont expect too much. Not many that work on the motors, a competent porter can do one up just fine, no magic to it. Its finding one that truly knows.
Id want one that has at least heads/intake/headers and gears before I started choosing off cars. Theres always someone faster but the plain jane look imo makes it fun.
They are for the most part a 13 sec car stock. When I test drove mine (had 4.10 gears)It didnt impress, just felt "thats the way a stock vette should feel". Shes all done by 63,.6500. Running them any higher is a waste.
OP go drive both then you wont wonder
Unless someone is real well versed in cars the ZR-1 looks to most like an old C4 not many really know about them. Even new you almos never saw one they were stuck in garages right off the bat most of them.
Can it keep up stock, eh kinda but dont expect too much. Not many that work on the motors, a competent porter can do one up just fine, no magic to it. Its finding one that truly knows.
Id want one that has at least heads/intake/headers and gears before I started choosing off cars. Theres always someone faster but the plain jane look imo makes it fun.
They are for the most part a 13 sec car stock. When I test drove mine (had 4.10 gears)It didnt impress, just felt "thats the way a stock vette should feel". Shes all done by 63,.6500. Running them any higher is a waste.
Today's ZR-1 puts out 755 horse as opposed to 460-480 for a standard Vette.....Almost 300 more for the Z.......Now, that's the way it should be...
05-27-2018, 07:50 PM
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05-27-2018, 08:04 PM
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The driver of the manual 19 ZR-1 is street speed 717........I watched a few of his you tube episodes and he has over 700, 000 subscribers.....He's pretty well spoken for a young dude and his you tube revenue is near 100K for the year....
He did run a 10.9 in that Z in one of his later episodes.......Cars this fast really have a lot to do with the driver, especially with a manual......I could not see myself with an automatic Vette but a paddle shifted one I'm guessing is kind of Kool and a lot easier to get better times in the 1/4....
He did run a 10.9 in that Z in one of his later episodes.......Cars this fast really have a lot to do with the driver, especially with a manual......I could not see myself with an automatic Vette but a paddle shifted one I'm guessing is kind of Kool and a lot easier to get better times in the 1/4....
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05-27-2018, 09:06 PM
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Maybe they will in time, but these 125ish trap speeds are , for the hp they're supposed to be making.
