Value of ZR-1 by model years
08-06-2018, 06:49 PM
#41
Race Director
Not sure what problem was but you make a blanket statement about the early 90 cars. As stated the problem was found to be a cold start issue with the operators at the plant,not the car itself. One of the issue with the value of these cars is the false info floating around and misinformation from people that don’t know what they are talking about.
08-07-2018, 01:49 AM
#42
Team Owner
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08-07-2018, 02:22 AM
#43
Race Director
Lately I’ve made comments in a few posts and can’t help but think I must come off like a total douche bag,that’s not the impression I want some to think of me but people that don’t own the car come here and want to argue with the people that do own them,I don’t get it.
08-07-2018, 10:18 AM
#45
Not sure how knowledge is gained of who owns a Z and who does not. But, in any event it is irrelevant. Many people have knowledge of the cars, through ownership, former ownership, interest, worked at the factory, designed the car, take your pick of many reasons. As for how you come off, it's the internet, half the conversations on it come off as hostile. The moment someone says 'you' it starts to point a finger even absent intent. And people tend to speak their mind more freely. Do I think your comments come across as hostile? Yes, but so do mine from time to time. I'm not saying that's ok, but it is what it is, we try to correct it as best we can, endeavor to be conscious in the future, and move on.
08-13-2018, 03:53 PM
#46
Drifting
I used to own a 90 ZR-1 and have owned a 1994 ZR-1 for 18 years.
The 90s are unique but they have their own challenges. Air bag sensors and the AC really hates a cellphone in the console. All the issues listed in the ZR-1 books - my 90 had.
The seats can be pretty painful - the 91s are much better. 94-95 much better.
Cool cars.
I should sell my 94 - It doesn't get driven much. <20K miles all the rights mods.
D.
The 90s are unique but they have their own challenges. Air bag sensors and the AC really hates a cellphone in the console. All the issues listed in the ZR-1 books - my 90 had.
The seats can be pretty painful - the 91s are much better. 94-95 much better.
Cool cars.
I should sell my 94 - It doesn't get driven much. <20K miles all the rights mods.
D.
08-13-2018, 11:05 PM
#47
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I used to own a 90 ZR-1 and have owned a 1994 ZR-1 for 18 years.
The 90s are unique but they have their own challenges. Air bag sensors and the AC really hates a cellphone in the console. All the issues listed in the ZR-1 books - my 90 had.
The seats can be pretty painful - the 91s are much better. 94-95 much better.
Cool cars.
I should sell my 94 - It doesn't get driven much. <20K miles all the rights mods.
D.
The 90s are unique but they have their own challenges. Air bag sensors and the AC really hates a cellphone in the console. All the issues listed in the ZR-1 books - my 90 had.
The seats can be pretty painful - the 91s are much better. 94-95 much better.
Cool cars.
I should sell my 94 - It doesn't get driven much. <20K miles all the rights mods.
D.
08-13-2018, 11:17 PM
#48
Race Director
08-13-2018, 11:38 PM
#50
Drifting
Drive Dallas to Bowling Green and the difference is huge.
D.
08-14-2018, 09:24 AM
#51
Melting Slicks
Back in 93, I had one of the old high power cell phones installed in my 92 with no issue.
Interesting!
Marty
08-14-2018, 03:18 PM
#52
Racer
I plugged in my radar detector and air is not coming on and all the gas mileage stuff is frozen. Never tried to restart being I thought I blew a fuse. Will try Thursday...thanks.
08-14-2018, 11:47 PM
#54
Race Director
No offense here but I honestly can’t see how a seat control at the top of the seat cushion can cause discomfort. Now,if somebody had body parts spilling out over the top of the seat then yea,then I can.
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08-15-2018, 10:00 AM
#56
Drifting
The challenge is it is hard plastic - not a cushion.
Long drives - they suck. Short drives - not as bad.
They change the the seats in 1991 for a reason.
D.
08-15-2018, 10:35 AM
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The side cushions press against the side of my thighs and w/in half an hour PAIN sets in, and shortly thereafter, I had to bale out and walk it off.
The "CURE" was standard (base C4) seats from a 95 Vette. And, apparently GM got the message, as the 95 sport seats are a totally different animal! I gladly give up some of that functionality for comfort - especially when doing a cross-country trek.
OP: My wife also owns a 69 vert C3 w/ a 350/350 (L43?)/M4. I was driving it one day when -=Jeff=- was following in his ZR-1. I turned a corner and laid into that motor - winding it out and rowing the gears. When I shifted into 4th I let up and looked in the rear view mirror. I expected to see Jeff way back there somewhere - as that L43 with 4.11 gear is pretty "frisky" - in its own right. But, what I saw in the rear view mirror was a big grin on Jeff's face looking over the top of his steering wheel! It was like I had a tow rope hooked to him and I was pulling him along - that C3 w/ the 350/350 was child's play to that ZR-1!
Far as 1/4 mile times go, the reason the 90 vs. the 95s trap so close is b/c the WEIGHT of the ZR-1 grew with the later years - nullifying most of the HP the 30 chp increase.
From a "hands-on" point of view, the primary runners of the 93+ (LT5 gen-II) cars was increased from 33 to 34.xmm, and the cam phasing was adjusted too, boosting the top-end hp to get the 405 number GM needed to appear competitive with the Viper.
The 93-95 motor also has 4 bolt mains too. BUT, it is a mistake to think of this 2-4 bolt change in terms of a SBC, because the 2 bolts of the 90-92 LT5 are of larger cross sectional area than either of the 4 main bolts of the 93-95 LT5.
You do the math, and you'll see the combined cross-sectional area of the 4 bolts of 93-95 motor vs. that of the 2 bolts of the 90-92 motor is only a 1.6% increase in cross-sectional area. That hardly is worth the effort, except for the fact the additional bolts were used to increase the stability of the mains - NOT that the 2-bolt mains weren't sufficient to support the power increase (as the 10.x second 90-92 441 cid LT5s have demonstrated). Just a bit of interesting trivia....
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08-15-2018, 09:39 PM
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Ok, just gonna throw this out there,,,, I got no problem at all with my 90's seats... Long drive short drive.... makes no difference... Theyre not like my 7 Series BMW's were.... but still just fine. Im 5'9" right around 200 lbs...
08-19-2018, 01:47 PM
#59
Instructor
Like he said
" know I'm opening up a can of worms " I know right...
ZR1s are only of value to corvette aficionados. Which is a small crowd. Like Ferrari and Lamborghini
Face the FACTS
It is a used sportscar with almost no / competitive aftermarket support. And as time goes....unlike foreign sports cars....ENGINE SUPPORT DIEs.
But I want one for under $15,000 and will get it !!!
" know I'm opening up a can of worms " I know right...
ZR1s are only of value to corvette aficionados. Which is a small crowd. Like Ferrari and Lamborghini
Face the FACTS
It is a used sportscar with almost no / competitive aftermarket support. And as time goes....unlike foreign sports cars....ENGINE SUPPORT DIEs.
But I want one for under $15,000 and will get it !!!
08-19-2018, 02:31 PM
#60
Like he said
" know I'm opening up a can of worms " I know right...
ZR1s are only of value to corvette aficionados. Which is a small crowd. Like Ferrari and Lamborghini
Face the FACTS
It is a used sportscar with almost no / competitive aftermarket support. And as time goes....unlike foreign sports cars....ENGINE SUPPORT DIEs.
But I want one for under $15,000 and will get it !!!
" know I'm opening up a can of worms " I know right...
ZR1s are only of value to corvette aficionados. Which is a small crowd. Like Ferrari and Lamborghini
Face the FACTS
It is a used sportscar with almost no / competitive aftermarket support. And as time goes....unlike foreign sports cars....ENGINE SUPPORT DIEs.
But I want one for under $15,000 and will get it !!!