C4 zr-1 lowest drag most aero dynamic
#21
Drifting
Underhood air is a really big effect on a C4, at 175mph you are pushing a lot of air on the fire wall. Put a fine mesh screen blocking the area that feeds the radiator. Buy a used set of gill plates and cut the gills out, take a 3.5 by 3.5 sheet to aluminum curve the front and pan from the front crash bars back.
all of the above will get you 10 mph. You welcome
Dave
all of the above will get you 10 mph. You welcome
Dave
#23
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Page 38 had a chart....that is where the good info is. Looks like the C5 and C6 have the best CDA, which surprises me.
#24
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I was thinking the same thing. Really surprises me based on my very unscientific comparison of speeds in the different platforms and their behavior. The front lift #s do seem to back observed behavior as the C5Z gets very "light' on the front end over 170, while the C4 and C6 both feel much more planted at those speeds.
#25
When the Beast was in for wind tunnel work the operator told me that the front lift begins when the firewall is packed and that speed is very noticeable as the fans wind up. When the front lifts the CD goes up rapidly so keeping air from entering and getting air out is critical. The screen just limits the air, The pan makes for a easier path for the air to not enter as well as reduces turbulence.
#26
Le Mans Master
When the Beast was in for wind tunnel work the operator told me that the front lift begins when the firewall is packed and that speed is very noticeable as the fans wind up. When the front lifts the CD goes up rapidly so keeping air from entering and getting air out is critical. The screen just limits the air, The pan makes for a easier path for the air to not enter as well as reduces turbulence.
this. the bonneville guys know aero. How is the new build coming?? good to see folks pushing the limits of the lt5 again.
I'd destroke this time and go with the 4.125 bore and let it eat.
back to the c4 aero, while he overall cd numbers aren't that great (wide bode and tires don't help) the c4 is pretty stable. JL learned with the aero body kit that reducing the front end lift and keeping the tail planted led to a 219 yellow bird number with his custom rear and a stocker front and the car drove great
the c5 did well here too during the TT testing with JL decribing hot laps at 223 which is moving it
I know Norm K. has built a "super aero" TT LPE car to try and get up over 300 which would be quite an achievement.
He's got the cubic dollars and intel but honestly I haven't seen him post for a while or heard from him.
while my TT car was being "auto swapped" at RPM, Norms stuff was on the table for the wonderbar tranny made out of unobtanium to hand the big HP needed to go that fast
Norm did wind tunnel testing to let you know how serious this effort was.
Anyone know more about this project currently? GB??
#27
As I got older I got slower....In my 20's I had my GSXR-1100 at 171MPH..Speedometer correction I was probably at 160.....Did this many times on upstate highways and a few stretches in long island....
With my Z I think the fastest I went was maybe 140.....For some silly reason I always felt safer at speeds on a bike than enclosed in a car....
Would like to do some half mile runs in the Z....Curious to see what it does as its modified ...Over 500 at the crank....
I'm in NY and and I really only see these in Texas or Florida....NY is a tough place for Z ownership....
With my Z I think the fastest I went was maybe 140.....For some silly reason I always felt safer at speeds on a bike than enclosed in a car....
Would like to do some half mile runs in the Z....Curious to see what it does as its modified ...Over 500 at the crank....
I'm in NY and and I really only see these in Texas or Florida....NY is a tough place for Z ownership....
#28
Le Mans Master
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As I got older I got slower....In my 20's I had my GSXR-1100 at 171MPH..Speedometer correction I was probably at 160.....Did this many times on upstate highways and a few stretches in long island....
With my Z I think the fastest I went was maybe 140.....For some silly reason I always felt safer at speeds on a bike than enclosed in a car....
Would like to do some half mile runs in the Z....Curious to see what it does as its modified ...Over 500 at the crank....
I'm in NY and and I really only see these in Texas or Florida....NY is a tough place for Z ownership....
With my Z I think the fastest I went was maybe 140.....For some silly reason I always felt safer at speeds on a bike than enclosed in a car....
Would like to do some half mile runs in the Z....Curious to see what it does as its modified ...Over 500 at the crank....
I'm in NY and and I really only see these in Texas or Florida....NY is a tough place for Z ownership....
#29
Race Director
Its my understanding the newer corvettes have a lower Cd than c4. But thats not the whole picture.
the C4 has a smaller frontal area than the newer corvettes and , even when combined with its higher Cd, it has less overall drag.
ENTER C4 🙌
the C4 has a smaller frontal area than the newer corvettes and , even when combined with its higher Cd, it has less overall drag.
ENTER C4 🙌
#30
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