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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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Hi everyone , this is a first post from a Canadian 03 Z06 vette owner. I have been visiting this forum for the last couple of months and have learned quite a bit in that time . I thank all that post in here.
Like many in here , the power bug has bitten me .
My car only has 6000 miles on it and i'd prefer to go the bolt-on route.
Changing hoods and noisy squealing S/C's do not appeal to me . like the title says I am looking for stealth power. Which leaves me where ? Turbos ? I am looking for 550-575 rwhp . What do u think ?
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Welcome to the forum best of luck with your search for boost!

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Originally Posted by Z06VET
Hi everyone , this is a first post from a Canadian 03 Z06 vette owner. I have been visiting this forum for the last couple of months and have learned quite a bit in that time . I thank all that post in here.
Like many in here , the power bug has bitten me .
My car only has 6000 miles on it and i'd prefer to go the bolt-on route.
Changing hoods and noisy squealing S/C's do not appeal to me . like the title says I am looking for stealth power. Which leaves me where ? Turbos ? I am looking for 550-575 rwhp . What do u think ?

If your looking for stealth power, turbos will be a dead give-away when you step on the pedal, especially when you let off, as well as under the hood. If I wanted that much power, and no one to know, I'd go with bigger cubes, not too big a cam, quiet exhaust, and a nice shot of nitrous. All that wouldn't be very obvious, but thats just my opinion.
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My turbos are not noticeable at all until the pedal is mashed, and even then they are a LOT quieter than I had originally thought they would be.

If you want total stealth up until you actually start the race, twin turbo is the way to go.
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Appreciate that stangkiller.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Thanks for you opinion Black , with only 6000miles I didnt really want to bust into the engine much right now. With regards to NOS , i like the idea of always having the power "there" if you know what i mean . I want the stealth factor at idle and low revs , I dont mind hearing alittle more "music" when i decide to jump on it.
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Which stage do you think would be good for me ? Got a good supplier i might be able to reference too ? Obviously i would have to order one and get it installed locally.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by diynoob
My turbos are not noticeable at all until the pedal is mashed, and even then they are a LOT quieter than I had originally thought they would be.

If you want total stealth up until you actually start the race, twin turbo is the way to go.



Noob is right with the turbos, they don't give ANYTHING away until they spool and then it is game over. Even with a cam and the cats gutted its difficult to tell there is something more than stock under the hood.

With regards to which kit to run I would recommend the TTi Stage X, it costs more than the Stage 1 however as with everyone else on this board you will get used to the power and eventually want / need more, having the ability to just turn up the wick will save you a bundle down the road. I am pretty sure it can be setup to run around 7 - 8#s of boost which will give you around 500 - 550 rwhp on the stock engine and the car will behave like a daily driver until it is unleashed on some poor unsuspecting victim.

Good luck with your project


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Originally Posted by Z06VET
Thanks for you opinion Black , with only 6000miles I didnt really want to bust into the engine much right now. With regards to NOS , i like the idea of always having the power "there" if you know what i mean . I want the stealth factor at idle and low revs , I dont mind hearing alittle more "music" when i decide to jump on it.
I hear ya about wanting the power there all the time. Thats why I switched from nitrous to procharger. If you want stealth at idle, low revs, cruising, but don't care about wide open throttle, then turbos would definately be best. Nitrous is not there all the time, procharger and vortech are a dead give away at idle, turbos and roots blowers are stealth until wide open. I'd reccommend turbos like some of the other guys, but if you want a supercharger and the stealth your describing, you may hold off a little longer and see what ends up happening this spring/summer with the twin screw. Just another thought.
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I hear ya about wanting the power there all the time. Thats why I switched from nitrous to procharger. If you want stealth at idle, low revs, cruising, but don't care about wide open throttle, then turbos would definately be best. Nitrous is not there all the time, procharger and vortech are a dead give away at idle, turbos and roots blowers are stealth until wide open. I'd reccommend turbos like some of the other guys, but if you want a supercharger and the stealth your describing, you may hold off a little longer and see what ends up happening this spring/summer with the twin screw. Just another thought.


What have you heard ?
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Kenne Bell is working on a twin screw. Supposed to be out in the next few months, but who knows -- nothing has been officially announced as far as I know.
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What have you heard ?
I dont know much of anything. All I know is they are working on one and claim to be done in spring/summer. I dont know if thats going to happen, but I do know that a twin screw on a vette is going to be really badass!! It would be cool to have something a little different. It would also be awesome if it fits under the stock hood. Imagine a stock sounding and looking vette, then the sound of a kenne bell. The only drawback is having to wait.
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Noob is right with the turbos, they don't give ANYTHING away until they spool and then it is game over. Even with a cam and the cats gutted its difficult to tell there is something more than stock under the hood.

With regards to which kit to run I would recommend the TTi Stage X, it costs more than the Stage 1 however as with everyone else on this board you will get used to the power and eventually want / need more, having the ability to just turn up the wick will save you a bundle down the road. I am pretty sure it can be setup to run around 7 - 8#s of boost which will give you around 500 - 550 rwhp on the stock engine and the car will behave like a daily driver until it is unleashed on some poor unsuspecting victim.

Good luck with your project


Mike


Thanks for the help. Wondering what a TTi stage x kit would run me with regards to cost.
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Originally Posted by Z06VET
Thanks for the help. Wondering what a TTi stage x kit would run me with regards to cost.
Extreme motorsports (supporting vendor) has them for 9600, but then you need install, tune and fuel pump upgrade and injectors.
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Originally Posted by Z06VET
Thanks for the help. Wondering what a TTi stage x kit would run me with regards to cost.
They are a bit under $10K for the kit. I think closer to $9K if you don't get ball bearing turbos. Install is probably around $2K, so your installed price is in the range of $11K. At low levels of boost, I don't know that you'd need other upgrades except for injectors (~$500), a fuel pump ($300, maybe less now) and a pump booster ($250 I think?)

Obviously this setup is more expensive than just going with a $7K to $8K installed blower kit. But as far as I know, you'll never get super stealth and lots of power as a combination on these cars unless you go turbo or nitrous.

Also, the injectors, pump, and pump booster would be required on a blower setup as well. The pump and pump booster MAY not be required for low boost turbo applications. Case in point, my pump and pump booster could not feed enough fuel to my motor at 550rwtq with my blower setup but it's working just fine at 630rwtq on my twin turbo setup. So I'm getting more torque with less fuel requirements.
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just noting that the Kenne Bell will not be stealthy at all, just dl a video of it on an 03 cobra and you'll see what i mean. i 2nd the tti kit.
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