Highest HP Maggie build?
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Racer
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From: Houston TX
Highest HP Maggie build?
Just curious at to how much potential there is with a Maggie.
They seem to get to the 450-500RWHP level pretty easily, but I don't remember anyone claiming significantly more than this.
Does a Maggie have more potential?
Thanks.
They seem to get to the 450-500RWHP level pretty easily, but I don't remember anyone claiming significantly more than this.
Does a Maggie have more potential?
Thanks.
Racer
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
I wouldn't say 500 rwhp is a walk in the park at all. Generally that requires heads, cam, and LT's along with a smaller RR pulley and meth..
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Drifting
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From: San Antonio TX
Originally Posted by SaltyNuts
Thanks guys.
Why can't a Maggie get higher than that? Why not just crank up the boost?
Why can't a Maggie get higher than that? Why not just crank up the boost?
the maggie has a top rotor speed of around 18k rpm and the air flow required to make 600rwhp puts it really close.
IMO the maggie is a good street blower and anyone that is trying to put down more that around 550rwhp in a street C5 with out DR's is kidding them selves. at the rwtq that these put out around 2500 rpm 1st and 2nd are useless, so you are spinning to 100mph or so. 3rd can be made to hook but the pavement had better be good. wile getting sideways at 90mph is good for a thrill, any more rwtq is an solution looking for a problem.
at the track with the correct setup you can use more power but things start to break and then you get into the cubic $ thing, where most of us do not want to go (well me anyway).
the bottom line is that on the street a well driven 500rwtq C5 puts you into a position to win if that is your game, also it is more about traction and driver skill than hp at that point.
if you are looking for a fun C5 on the street that will blow away 99% of the cars that you run into then the maggie is great.
If you want the braging rights to the most rwhp or you want a serious 1/4 mile car then you want something else and there are a lot of solutions out there, buy 1 and have fun.
More Than Zero
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From: Shavertown PA
Originally Posted by M_T_0
AIR FLOW
the maggie has a top rotor speed of around 18k rpm and the air flow required to make 600rwhp puts it really close.
IMO the maggie is a good street blower and anyone that is trying to put down more that around 550rwhp in a street C5 with out DR's is kidding them selves. at the rwtq that these put out around 2500 rpm 1st and 2nd are useless, so you are spinning to 100mph or so. 3rd can be made to hook but the pavement had better be good. wile getting sideways at 90mph is good for a thrill, any more rwtq is an solution looking for a problem.
at the track with the correct setup you can use more power but things start to break and then you get into the cubic $ thing, where most of us do not want to go (well me anyway).
the bottom line is that on the street a well driven 500rwtq C5 puts you into a position to win if that is your game, also it is more about traction and driver skill than hp at that point.
if you are looking for a fun C5 on the street that will blow away 99% of the cars that you run into then the maggie is great.
If you want the braging rights to the most rwhp or you want a serious 1/4 mile car then you want something else and there are a lot of solutions out there, buy 1 and have fun.
More Than Zero
the maggie has a top rotor speed of around 18k rpm and the air flow required to make 600rwhp puts it really close.
IMO the maggie is a good street blower and anyone that is trying to put down more that around 550rwhp in a street C5 with out DR's is kidding them selves. at the rwtq that these put out around 2500 rpm 1st and 2nd are useless, so you are spinning to 100mph or so. 3rd can be made to hook but the pavement had better be good. wile getting sideways at 90mph is good for a thrill, any more rwtq is an solution looking for a problem.
at the track with the correct setup you can use more power but things start to break and then you get into the cubic $ thing, where most of us do not want to go (well me anyway).
the bottom line is that on the street a well driven 500rwtq C5 puts you into a position to win if that is your game, also it is more about traction and driver skill than hp at that point.
if you are looking for a fun C5 on the street that will blow away 99% of the cars that you run into then the maggie is great.
If you want the braging rights to the most rwhp or you want a serious 1/4 mile car then you want something else and there are a lot of solutions out there, buy 1 and have fun.
More Than Zero
What he said!!!
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See my sig. Easily made 654RWHP and 680RWTQ with only 8 lbs. But I do have another power adder Best of both worlds, 526 on the street, then 650+ at the track.
Best of both worlds, 526 on the street, then 650+ at the track.
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From: bowie md
Originally Posted by M_T_0
AIR FLOW
the maggie has a top rotor speed of around 18k rpm and the air flow required to make 600rwhp puts it really close.
IMO the maggie is a good street blower and anyone that is trying to put down more that around 550rwhp in a street C5 with out DR's is kidding them selves. at the rwtq that these put out around 2500 rpm 1st and 2nd are useless, so you are spinning to 100mph or so. 3rd can be made to hook but the pavement had better be good. wile getting sideways at 90mph is good for a thrill, any more rwtq is an solution looking for a problem.
at the track with the correct setup you can use more power but things start to break and then you get into the cubic $ thing, where most of us do not want to go (well me anyway).
the bottom line is that on the street a well driven 500rwtq C5 puts you into a position to win if that is your game, also it is more about traction and driver skill than hp at that point.
if you are looking for a fun C5 on the street that will blow away 99% of the cars that you run into then the maggie is great.
If you want the braging rights to the most rwhp or you want a serious 1/4 mile car then you want something else and there are a lot of solutions out there, buy 1 and have fun.
More Than Zero
the maggie has a top rotor speed of around 18k rpm and the air flow required to make 600rwhp puts it really close.
IMO the maggie is a good street blower and anyone that is trying to put down more that around 550rwhp in a street C5 with out DR's is kidding them selves. at the rwtq that these put out around 2500 rpm 1st and 2nd are useless, so you are spinning to 100mph or so. 3rd can be made to hook but the pavement had better be good. wile getting sideways at 90mph is good for a thrill, any more rwtq is an solution looking for a problem.
at the track with the correct setup you can use more power but things start to break and then you get into the cubic $ thing, where most of us do not want to go (well me anyway).
the bottom line is that on the street a well driven 500rwtq C5 puts you into a position to win if that is your game, also it is more about traction and driver skill than hp at that point.
if you are looking for a fun C5 on the street that will blow away 99% of the cars that you run into then the maggie is great.
If you want the braging rights to the most rwhp or you want a serious 1/4 mile car then you want something else and there are a lot of solutions out there, buy 1 and have fun.
More Than Zero
Words of wisdom here. Traction is key.
Drifting
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From: Thousand Oaks California
500 rwhp on a Mag. means a lot.
YELLOHH ran 127.96 mph on his 512 rwhp C5 on an easy 2.197 sec. bogged 60' / 6500 rpm upshifts / 150' DA.
With a hard 1.60 sec. 60', I'm sure 129.5 mph traps are possible. 130 mph traps should be good enough for most tastes!
YELLOHH ran 127.96 mph on his 512 rwhp C5 on an easy 2.197 sec. bogged 60' / 6500 rpm upshifts / 150' DA.
With a hard 1.60 sec. 60', I'm sure 129.5 mph traps are possible. 130 mph traps should be good enough for most tastes!
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ECS did a 382 stroker with a 100 shot and meth through a fogger.
It was over 800 rwhp/tq.
I saw it at a track rental day as it ran high 10's and trapped in the low 130's but had no traction at all.
It was over 800 rwhp/tq.
I saw it at a track rental day as it ran high 10's and trapped in the low 130's but had no traction at all.
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Racer
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Darn MTO, thanks alot for that explanation.
I had no idea 500rwtq would cause such traction problems.
Why can the Maggie only spin to 18,000 rpm? Is that just the physical limit after which it is likely to blow up?
Thanks guys.
I had no idea 500rwtq would cause such traction problems.
Why can the Maggie only spin to 18,000 rpm? Is that just the physical limit after which it is likely to blow up?
Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by SaltyNuts
Darn MTO, thanks alot for that explanation.
I had no idea 500rwtq would cause such traction problems.
Why can the Maggie only spin to 18,000 rpm? Is that just the physical limit after which it is likely to blow up?
Thanks guys.
I had no idea 500rwtq would cause such traction problems.
Why can the Maggie only spin to 18,000 rpm? Is that just the physical limit after which it is likely to blow up?
Thanks guys.
Drifting
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From: San Antonio TX
Originally Posted by 415LT5-badZR-1
Above that it flows very little more air, and heats it up exponentially, so that the net effect is no more cfms.
also eaton has a problem with them living very long at those rpm levels.
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