Installing my HP performance kit
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From: Oppdal Norway
Installing my HP performance kit
Today i started what i could call a sex-change on my otherwise stock C5. From a girlie car to a bad boy 
I got my tracking# for the missing carbonparts from HP friday, so i went down to the garage and started the install of the kit today. Almost finished with installing drivers side turbo.
I had to use the hammer on the header to make it clear the steering axle.
Otherwise it is fitting nice (left side only so far).
Haven't got any instructions yet so i am not sure where to put my oilreturn yet. Does anyone have a picture of the inside of an oilpan or better yet a description of where to put it.
I can see on HP's website the approx location on the left oilreturn, but not the right side...
I am taking some pics as i go along. Here they are:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/motorm...&_c=photoalbum
Roger
I got my tracking# for the missing carbonparts from HP friday, so i went down to the garage and started the install of the kit today. Almost finished with installing drivers side turbo.
I had to use the hammer on the header to make it clear the steering axle.
Otherwise it is fitting nice (left side only so far).Haven't got any instructions yet so i am not sure where to put my oilreturn yet. Does anyone have a picture of the inside of an oilpan or better yet a description of where to put it.
I can see on HP's website the approx location on the left oilreturn, but not the right side...
I am taking some pics as i go along. Here they are:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/motorm...&_c=photoalbum
Roger
Last edited by C5-Bender; Sep 12, 2005 at 05:13 PM.
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Roger, congrats on getting started...
Need to have a website to upload your pics to. Go to your website and right click on the pic file, highlight and copy the pic "address", and then put that address within image tags like this :
(img)address here no spaces(/img)
I used () when you are supposed to use []... so that my example will show up so you can see it.
Bill
Need to have a website to upload your pics to. Go to your website and right click on the pic file, highlight and copy the pic "address", and then put that address within image tags like this :
(img)address here no spaces(/img)
I used () when you are supposed to use []... so that my example will show up so you can see it.
Bill
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Racer
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From: Oppdal Norway
Originally Posted by Bill Reid
Roger, congrats on getting started...
Need to have a website to upload your pics to. Go to your website and right click on the pic file, highlight and copy the pic "address", and then put that address within image tags like this :
(img)address here no spaces(/img)
I used () when you are supposed to use []... so that my example will show up so you can see it.
Bill
Need to have a website to upload your pics to. Go to your website and right click on the pic file, highlight and copy the pic "address", and then put that address within image tags like this :
(img)address here no spaces(/img)
I used () when you are supposed to use []... so that my example will show up so you can see it.
Bill
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From: Chandler AZ
I think you need a website for thumbnails as well...
If you like... I can host for you until you get your website up and running. You can send the pics to billreid1@***.net
FYI, there are also some websites that will allow you to post your pics to their website and you grab the address from there. I think cardomain.com is one of those places...
Whatever works the easiest for you
Bill
If you like... I can host for you until you get your website up and running. You can send the pics to billreid1@***.net
FYI, there are also some websites that will allow you to post your pics to their website and you grab the address from there. I think cardomain.com is one of those places...
Whatever works the easiest for you
Bill
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Racer
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From: Oppdal Norway
The pictures are loaded to my MSN spaces.
Choose the category "bilder" and "HP Turbo"
Link:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/motorm...&_c=photoalbum
Does anyone have a picture of the inside of the oilpan?
I would like to see where to drill holes for the return safely.
Roger
Choose the category "bilder" and "HP Turbo"
Link:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/motorm...&_c=photoalbum
Does anyone have a picture of the inside of the oilpan?
I would like to see where to drill holes for the return safely.
Roger
Last edited by C5-Bender; Jul 24, 2005 at 10:14 AM.
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Here's a pic of the driver side...
Now, this is the driver side drain for a TTi kit. The fitting is 3/8" so this is an older shot... since then TTi has moved up to 1/2". I don't have a shot of the passanger side but you get the idea. For the passanger side the drain will be located a more towards the front of the motor because of the starter. There is a spot between the starter and the A/C compressor.
I'm not sure this setup will work for you but it gives you an idea.
Bill
Now, this is the driver side drain for a TTi kit. The fitting is 3/8" so this is an older shot... since then TTi has moved up to 1/2". I don't have a shot of the passanger side but you get the idea. For the passanger side the drain will be located a more towards the front of the motor because of the starter. There is a spot between the starter and the A/C compressor.
I'm not sure this setup will work for you but it gives you an idea.
Bill
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From: Oppdal Norway
Originally Posted by Bill Reid
Here's a pic of the driver side...
Now, this is the driver side drain for a TTi kit. The fitting is 3/8" so this is an older shot... since then TTi has moved up to 1/2". I don't have a shot of the passanger side but you get the idea. For the passanger side the drain will be located a more towards the front of the motor because of the starter. There is a spot between the starter and the A/C compressor.
I'm not sure this setup will work for you but it gives you an idea.
Bill
Now, this is the driver side drain for a TTi kit. The fitting is 3/8" so this is an older shot... since then TTi has moved up to 1/2". I don't have a shot of the passanger side but you get the idea. For the passanger side the drain will be located a more towards the front of the motor because of the starter. There is a spot between the starter and the A/C compressor.
I'm not sure this setup will work for you but it gives you an idea.
Bill
That's exactly the spot i thought i should use.
I have just fitted the pass.side header and removed batterybracket from the frame. I will bring the tools to drill and thread the returnholes from work tomorrow. When that is finished i can permanently install the turbo's.
Another thing that i don't know what to do with yet is what to do with the pcv/egr and airpump. Still haven't got instructions from HP
Roger
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Na, there is enough talent here in C5 Forced Induction to help you totally screw up, er, I mean get through the install 
... you don't need no stinkin' instructions
You should be able to relocate the pump, right in front of the crash pad (with minor trimming of the pad itself), here:
... you don't need no stinkin' instructionsYou should be able to relocate the pump, right in front of the crash pad (with minor trimming of the pad itself), here:
Last edited by Bill Reid; Jul 24, 2005 at 03:51 PM.
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Well, I guess in that case, you remove all the air pump stuff... and turn off any codes in LS1 Edit when you go to tune. Otherwise you weld bungs on the headers in the proper location to line up with the air pipes and have them recoated. Are you running cats? Will you be required to pass a visual and/or sniff emissions test?
Last edited by Bill Reid; Jul 24, 2005 at 04:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by Bill Reid
Well, I guess in that case, you remove all the air pump stuff... and turn off any codes in LS1 Edit when you go to tune. Otherwise you weld bungs on the headers in the proper location to line up with the air pipes and have them recoated. Are you running cats? Will you be required to pass a visual and/or sniff emissions test?
I was thinking of removing the tubes going to headers, but keep the pump. That way i was hoping to avoid codes....
Welding and recoating is not an option since i live in Norway and there is a long way to Tempe Arizona (JetHot)!
We have vehicle inspection every second year here in Norway, but it is done at authorized workshops wich i happen to be a manager of
I am still going to run cats though!
I am not able to see how the tubing goes behind the intakemanifold so i don't know how/if the egr is connected to the pcv.
I would like to see a schematic drawing/picture and description of the whole system if someone could provide...?
Roger
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Roger,
The air pump draws air from the factory air filter box and then pumps it through (1 for each exhaust manifold) 2 check valves and then injected into the exhaust manifolds. Thats all there is too it really (hardware wise)... just some piping that wraps around the back of the engine. The passanger side air pipe is bolted to the back of the drivers side head. Taking the intake manifold off will allow fairly easy access to loosen the bolt and then you can remove the entire air pipe assembly. By the way, the air pipe system is not hooked up to pcv... so removal of the air piping will not affect it. Also, there is no exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) on the C5... at least US Spec models... is there EGR on Euro export models?
Bill
The air pump draws air from the factory air filter box and then pumps it through (1 for each exhaust manifold) 2 check valves and then injected into the exhaust manifolds. Thats all there is too it really (hardware wise)... just some piping that wraps around the back of the engine. The passanger side air pipe is bolted to the back of the drivers side head. Taking the intake manifold off will allow fairly easy access to loosen the bolt and then you can remove the entire air pipe assembly. By the way, the air pipe system is not hooked up to pcv... so removal of the air piping will not affect it. Also, there is no exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) on the C5... at least US Spec models... is there EGR on Euro export models?
Bill
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European cars use only egr and not airpumps(i don't know about euro-c5,because i have us specs). Then i just remove all piping concerning airpump and leave the pump just pumping air in a loop to prevent codes.
But i suppose i can't leave the pcv in stock condition?! Then i will pressurize the crankcase in boost condition, or at least it will not ventilate at all when checkvalve is closed during boost.
Or is there something special arrangement on C5's or us spec car in general that i don't know about?
Sorry about all the stupid questions, but there is impossible to see what goes on behind the intake, and there are clearly some other antipollution rules in Euro cars wich i am most familiar with. :o
Roger
But i suppose i can't leave the pcv in stock condition?! Then i will pressurize the crankcase in boost condition, or at least it will not ventilate at all when checkvalve is closed during boost.
Or is there something special arrangement on C5's or us spec car in general that i don't know about?
Sorry about all the stupid questions, but there is impossible to see what goes on behind the intake, and there are clearly some other antipollution rules in Euro cars wich i am most familiar with. :o
Roger
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I am having some issues with clearence and the oilreturn is very tricky.
In my opinion it is not a direct bolt-on kit. You need some skills to install this yourself.
But i do have some progress every time i spend time in the garage
I have teared off the batterybracket from the frame.
More pics to come later
Roger
In my opinion it is not a direct bolt-on kit.
You need some skills to install this yourself.But i do have some progress every time i spend time in the garage
I have teared off the batterybracket from the frame.
More pics to come later
Roger
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Originally Posted by hpcubed
Glad to see you finally got some parts. Looks like they moved the wastegates from the headers to right before the turbos. Do they still vent to the atmosphere?
Roger
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Ordered in January....
But for future customers i think the wait will be considerably shorter, because the kit is still in development. They have moved the WG since i ordered, they have included a optima redtop battery and they have also decided to make a shroud over the radiators/IC in the kit.
(i am not trying to defend them for the long wait, but it seems like they want the kit to be complete and great)
Roger
But for future customers i think the wait will be considerably shorter, because the kit is still in development. They have moved the WG since i ordered, they have included a optima redtop battery and they have also decided to make a shroud over the radiators/IC in the kit.
(i am not trying to defend them for the long wait, but it seems like they want the kit to be complete and great)
Roger
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Thats the thing, everytime i talked to them they were "changing something to make it better". I think they are basically "Mustang Guys" who bit off more than they could chew by taking on a corvette kit. I am just gonna build my vette on motor now, much less headache.