SO I am going to be doing a swap with a procharger this weekend.. freind of mine has one and is selling his C5 so I bought from him...

basically we are going to pull both cars next to each other and just swap everything over..

just wanted to get some input on things to look out for or helpfull tips..

I have read up on the install and read tons of threads about it.. just wanted to get some last minute advise....

thanks

 

Just take your time and take lots of pics.

 

are you goign to pin your crank? if so - that will be your most time consuming item.

 

didn't plan on it.. I read where that needs to be done but I didn't see why...

will talk to my mechanice freind tomorow that was done one and see what he says...

 

You definitely want to pin the crank.

What are you planning on as far as a tune ?

Mark

 

You need to pin the crank and you need a tune. You also need a fuel pump, injectors.....
What procharger kit is this. Does it keep the stock radiator fans in place? If not, you are about to spend a lot of time on your back.

 

Pin the crank...
Pin the crank...
Pin the crank...

Sorry to be a pita, but you really should pin the crank.

 

OK... I don't understand why I have to pin the crank.. please explain..

also it is the complete kit it is coming off another vette.. read the frist post..

 

You have to pin the crank because the balancer (crank pulley) is not keyed from the factory on GM cars. It is only held in place by a bolt. You put a major load on the crank pulley when you turn a CF blower at high rpm. Without keying/pinning it (pin is a round key), the balancer will begin to slip and eventually work the bolt out. This can result in more damage than you could ever imagine. Some get lucky and notice the wobble....

There is a pinning kit available from many of the vendors here. Some will just rent it to you. It is basically a fixture that allows you to drill an offset hole between the balancer and the crank. You then just slip a pin into the hole and put a new bolt back on. You have to use a new bolt, since they are one time use bolts (stretch to yield).

I read the first post. What you don't understand is that there is about 20 variants of an installed procharger kit. You might be getting one of the original setups that has some major problems (like overheating because of the poor fan setup).

What you also don't understand is that all of these cars are totally different. I know it might seem strange, but what works on one car often does not work on another. The fuel pump is a great example of this. One cars pump might be able to support plenty of power, but another guys (of the same year) simply runs out of steam at the same power level. The tune is another example. These almost never work from car to car and that is why the pocket programmers never work right.

There are a ton of things to understand before you put a blower on your car. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but you are just asking for trouble if you attempt to do this on your own without first being aware of all the issues. It does sound like you are attempting to get some advice, but your attitude seems a little bit closed minded. Most people have a professional help them out, and even most of them don't understand all the issues.... It is possible to do it all on your own (myself and many others have done it with great success), but you have to spend a lot of time educating yourself. It is definitely not (install and play). People who want install and play need to go to a professional with lots of experience (A&A, ECS, LPE come to mind as the best).

 

definatly not closed minded.. this is the reason I mad this post.. wanted to everyones opinion..

I put a blower on my S-10 and it was pretty easy bit after reading the instructions from andy's website I wanted more input.. and I do apprecaite everything you guys say..

I have do have tunning software - HP tuner

I have a new fuel pump on the way - Lingenfelter

ordered new fan brackets from andy.

The mechanic that actaully did the install on the car then I am getting the blower from is going to be helping..

it was going to be like a month untill he could get it in the shop but he said he would be more then happy to help me after hours...

I really hope this goes smooth.. but I will be taking my time and making sure everything is done right...

 

Sounds like you are on the right track. If it is an A&A kit, then you are basically covered and you should be able to simply swap the radiator cradle between the two cars (it just bolts to the frame) no need to order parts.

It helps people understand when you provide more info about what you are installing...

I would also suggest an onboard WB to keep track of your tune. They are so cheap now that I can't imagine not having one on a FI car.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...me.php?cat=253

 

Thanks for advice...

yes it is an A&A kit.. I had to order new bracketts because he had one of the older kits were you had to cut and re-weld them in..

and yes I already have an on board wideband..DYnojet

all my freinds drive turbo'd cars it seems so I know all about A/F and stuff...

keep the advise coming...

 

Just take out his cradle (that is welded) and put it in your car. It simply bolts in place.

 

OK will do...

keep staying on online.. I should be starting it this weekend so I am sure I will have more post coming...

is there any special tools you guy might know of that I need..

I have the normal..sockets wrenchs and what not plus I have some air tools...

but if there is anything special that has helped out or has been invaluable please let me know

 

A 12 pack wouldn't hurt... also a few swivels and ratchet extensions are always put to good use when working on these cars.

 

already go that handled...the beer that is.. more like a couple casses as many people are going to be over to help..

 

Well I am half way there... got the blower pulled of my freinds car.. and everything pulled out.. installed my intake on his car and buttoned it up...

had him come over and installed a stock map for the car and cranked right up.. I was very happy.. I have never done anything like this before so I am glad that his car is running..

no it's time for mine.. still waiting on some parts should be here today so hopfully I will have everything together tommorow and up and running.. that is my goal...