Help decide
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From: Wimauma FL
Help decide
Hope someone can help.
If I am getting an S/C at a later time, would you all suggest to do the H/C package first or do the LG LT headers and exhaust first?
Would I benefit from the H/C package without having a LT header and exhaust or should all this be done at the same time?
Current configs are 3.15 A4 with Halltech Stinger. Thanks.
If I am getting an S/C at a later time, would you all suggest to do the H/C package first or do the LG LT headers and exhaust first?
Would I benefit from the H/C package without having a LT header and exhaust or should all this be done at the same time?
Current configs are 3.15 A4 with Halltech Stinger. Thanks.
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There is certainly an argument to wait until you're ready for a forged motor before you do heads and cam.
Which supercharger are you planning on? Not all seem to benefit equally with long tube headers. In the centrifugal world (Paxton, ProCharger, Vortech) you notice a large torque increase with long tubes.
Mark
Which supercharger are you planning on? Not all seem to benefit equally with long tube headers. In the centrifugal world (Paxton, ProCharger, Vortech) you notice a large torque increase with long tubes.
Mark
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From: Converse TX
Originally Posted by DDSLT5
Talk to Andy - he'll get you answered!
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If you're in California and plan on a Vortech I think Andy would be the man to see. For the Midwest I would look into the DTE setup.
I wold also consider doing a cam, either a Z06 or LPE GT2-3 or something similar. I'd leave the heads alone.
Good Luck and let us know what you decide.
Mark
I wold also consider doing a cam, either a Z06 or LPE GT2-3 or something similar. I'd leave the heads alone.
Good Luck and let us know what you decide.
Mark
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
If you're in California and plan on a Vortech I think Andy would be the man to see. For the Midwest I would look into the DTE setup.
I wold also consider doing a cam, either a Z06 or LPE GT2-3 or something similar. I'd leave the heads alone.
Good Luck and let us know what you decide.
Mark
I wold also consider doing a cam, either a Z06 or LPE GT2-3 or something similar. I'd leave the heads alone.
Good Luck and let us know what you decide.
Mark
Just wondering why would you leave the heads alone?
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Just get everything done in stages......with your final goal in mind (which will change as your appetite for hp increases). Never assume that enough is enough. What is your ultimate hp goal right now?
For a street car/ daily driver.... I would just get a blower cam, stock heads, and a magnacharger and some long tubes. Stock bottom end. Around 500 rwhp/500 rwtq.
If you want to get crazy (no one plans on this route from jump). Get a forged motor and a centrifugal. 600+ rwhp
I've gone through (stage I h/c) to (stage II h/c) to (stage II h/c and procharger) to a (408 stroker) to a (408 stroker w/ spray).....next is some turbos or KB...... I could have saved some dollars on the way if I admitted to myself from the beginning that I would not be happy until had too much hp....LOL
For a street car/ daily driver.... I would just get a blower cam, stock heads, and a magnacharger and some long tubes. Stock bottom end. Around 500 rwhp/500 rwtq.
If you want to get crazy (no one plans on this route from jump). Get a forged motor and a centrifugal. 600+ rwhp
I've gone through (stage I h/c) to (stage II h/c) to (stage II h/c and procharger) to a (408 stroker) to a (408 stroker w/ spray).....next is some turbos or KB...... I could have saved some dollars on the way if I admitted to myself from the beginning that I would not be happy until had too much hp....LOL
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Originally Posted by nextphasemarko
Just get everything done in stages......with your final goal in mind (which will change as your appetite for hp increases). Never assume that enough is enough. What is your ultimate hp goal right now?
For a street car/ daily driver.... I would just get a blower cam, stock heads, and a magnacharger and some long tubes. Stock bottom end. Around 500 rwhp/500 rwtq.
If you want to get crazy (no one plans on this route from jump). Get a forged motor and a centrifugal. 600+ rwhp
I've gone through (stage I h/c) to (stage II h/c) to (stage II h/c and procharger) to a (408 stroker) to a (408 stroker w/ spray).....next is some turbos or KB...... I could have saved some dollars on the way if I admitted to myself from the beginning that I would not be happy until had too much hp....LOL
For a street car/ daily driver.... I would just get a blower cam, stock heads, and a magnacharger and some long tubes. Stock bottom end. Around 500 rwhp/500 rwtq.
If you want to get crazy (no one plans on this route from jump). Get a forged motor and a centrifugal. 600+ rwhp
I've gone through (stage I h/c) to (stage II h/c) to (stage II h/c and procharger) to a (408 stroker) to a (408 stroker w/ spray).....next is some turbos or KB...... I could have saved some dollars on the way if I admitted to myself from the beginning that I would not be happy until had too much hp....LOL
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Boost alone is enough
If you change the heads and cam, you change your power band and lose low rpm performance. If you are going the boost route, unless you want over 700 hp don't change your power band with a cam swap. Just up your boost levels. You will retain your low rpm driveability. I get over 30 mpg's on the hw and 17 in city with lots of low end torque on a stock cam and 16 psi.
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Originally Posted by leojnknsC5
If you change the heads and cam, you change your power band and lose low rpm performance. If you are going the boost route, unless you want over 700 hp don't change your power band with a cam swap. Just up your boost levels. You will retain your low rpm driveability. I get over 30 mpg's on the hw and 17 in city with lots of low end torque on a stock cam and 16 psi.
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From: Valencia Ca
Originally Posted by D C
Hope someone can help.
If I am getting an S/C at a later time, would you all suggest to do the H/C package first or do the LG LT headers and exhaust first?
Would I benefit from the H/C package without having a LT header and exhaust or should all this be done at the same time?
Current configs are 3.15 A4 with Halltech Stinger. Thanks.
If I am getting an S/C at a later time, would you all suggest to do the H/C package first or do the LG LT headers and exhaust first?
Would I benefit from the H/C package without having a LT header and exhaust or should all this be done at the same time?
Current configs are 3.15 A4 with Halltech Stinger. Thanks.
Charlie
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From: eagle mountain utah
yea your right.
Originally Posted by D C
A4 or MN6 platform? But would you not want to end up forging the engine anyway?