STS TT kit question
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STS TT kit question
Hi
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Does anyone have a complete detailed list of what is actually included in the STS T kit for the C5? And what additional items would be need to install on a 6-speed Vette?
Also, does anyone have a copy of the installation manual? I'd like to read that to see what's involved.
Thanks,
Chris
,
Does anyone have a complete detailed list of what is actually included in the STS T kit for the C5? And what additional items would be need to install on a 6-speed Vette?
Also, does anyone have a copy of the installation manual? I'd like to read that to see what's involved.
Thanks,
Chris
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Chris,
I will send you a pm with Rick's(Synergy's) email address and cell phone. He has been customising STS kits from the time STS started. He will walk through everything verbally as well as in writing.
Brent
I will send you a pm with Rick's(Synergy's) email address and cell phone. He has been customising STS kits from the time STS started. He will walk through everything verbally as well as in writing.
Brent
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Originally Posted by #001 2001 Z06
Chris,
I will send you a pm with Rick's(Synergy's) email address and cell phone. He has been customising STS kits from the time STS started. He will walk through everything verbally as well as in writing.
Brent
I will send you a pm with Rick's(Synergy's) email address and cell phone. He has been customising STS kits from the time STS started. He will walk through everything verbally as well as in writing.
Brent
Thanks, I wrote Rick and email, so I'll just wait for his reply.
To anyone who has already installed this kit themselves, how long do you estimate it took install the base kit? Did you run into any complications or was everything straight forward?
Thanks,
Chris
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From: Sparta NJ
Originally Posted by ProtoVette
Brent,
Thanks, I wrote Rick and email, so I'll just wait for his reply.
To anyone who has already installed this kit themselves, how long do you estimate it took install the base kit? Did you run into any complications or was everything straight forward?
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks, I wrote Rick and email, so I'll just wait for his reply.
To anyone who has already installed this kit themselves, how long do you estimate it took install the base kit? Did you run into any complications or was everything straight forward?
Thanks,
Chris
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From: Livermore CA
Originally Posted by ProtoVette
Brent,
Thanks, I wrote Rick and email, so I'll just wait for his reply.
To anyone who has already installed this kit themselves, how long do you estimate it took install the base kit? Did you run into any complications or was everything straight forward?
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks, I wrote Rick and email, so I'll just wait for his reply.
To anyone who has already installed this kit themselves, how long do you estimate it took install the base kit? Did you run into any complications or was everything straight forward?
Thanks,
Chris
Rick
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From: SoCal Twin Turbo, Any Questions?
St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Originally Posted by ProtoVette
Brent,
Thanks, I wrote Rick and email, so I'll just wait for his reply.
To anyone who has already installed this kit themselves, how long do you estimate it took install the base kit? Did you run into any complications or was everything straight forward?
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks, I wrote Rick and email, so I'll just wait for his reply.
To anyone who has already installed this kit themselves, how long do you estimate it took install the base kit? Did you run into any complications or was everything straight forward?
Thanks,
Chris
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Navy08,
The amount of work on the STS TT is model dependant, as you are finding out. Yes, two days on Z06, much more on others.
As far as piping, we make the pipes fit or just literally make them or bend the tubes right on the fly in the shop. No biggie.
Brent
P.S. Wait until we get really stupid one day and just start making a car, starting with just the tape measure.
The amount of work on the STS TT is model dependant, as you are finding out. Yes, two days on Z06, much more on others.
As far as piping, we make the pipes fit or just literally make them or bend the tubes right on the fly in the shop. No biggie.
Brent
P.S. Wait until we get really stupid one day and just start making a car, starting with just the tape measure.
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Originally Posted by #001 2001 Z06
Navy08,
The amount of work on the STS TT is model dependant, as you are finding out. Yes, two days on Z06, much more on others.
As far as piping, we make the pipes fit or just literally make them or bend the tubes right on the fly in the shop. No biggie.
Brent
P.S. Wait until we get really stupid one day and just start making a car, starting with just the tape measure.
The amount of work on the STS TT is model dependant, as you are finding out. Yes, two days on Z06, much more on others.
As far as piping, we make the pipes fit or just literally make them or bend the tubes right on the fly in the shop. No biggie.
Brent
P.S. Wait until we get really stupid one day and just start making a car, starting with just the tape measure.
"No Biggie"... easy for you to say... NOT an option for guys with their ride on jackstands in their garage. Pipes need to fit right the first time... and if not STS needs to know, correct the issue, and send correct fitting parts asap. Model specific? Can you detail specific differences... year to year and specific to Coupe, FRC, or Vert? If this is so important does STS (or their vendors) make it a point to know EXACTLY what year/model C5 their client has? This would be a great thread to detail this info... potentially saving aggravation for future STS customers...
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STS Fitment issues!
Bill,
I have been helping Bob, aka Navy08, install the STS kit in my garage. I would not attempt this on jack stands and a 2-post lift would make it a little easier. The kit would probably all fit on a Z06 but a coupe has some metal in the rocker panel area that needs to be sawzalled off. This is not in the manual. The pipes barely fit thru the rocker panel area and are a bitch to line up.
The instructions assume you know what you are doing and are not written for the DIY installer. I read them many times before attempting the install and they just seemed too easy. Now we know better
. I think this is a great kit for the money but if you are attempting to do this at home, wait until Bob posts more detailed instructions with pics. I know if I were to do this again it could be done in 2 very long days or 3 decent days with all the parts in hand. We are still waiting for the intercooler.
I can't wait to fire up the car next weekend. Hopefully all will go well. After doing this I think heads and cam would be easy! LOL
Mark
I have been helping Bob, aka Navy08, install the STS kit in my garage. I would not attempt this on jack stands and a 2-post lift would make it a little easier. The kit would probably all fit on a Z06 but a coupe has some metal in the rocker panel area that needs to be sawzalled off. This is not in the manual. The pipes barely fit thru the rocker panel area and are a bitch to line up.
The instructions assume you know what you are doing and are not written for the DIY installer. I read them many times before attempting the install and they just seemed too easy. Now we know better
. I think this is a great kit for the money but if you are attempting to do this at home, wait until Bob posts more detailed instructions with pics. I know if I were to do this again it could be done in 2 very long days or 3 decent days with all the parts in hand. We are still waiting for the intercooler.I can't wait to fire up the car next weekend. Hopefully all will go well. After doing this I think heads and cam would be easy! LOL
Mark
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Bill,
Mark is correct, the Z06 is much easier. And everything, is much easier if you do it more than once. Hence, the delimma for the DIY'er. Time and effort. For someone with your talent, you would just find it be some work.
Excuse the short reply, I was cooking flank steak and bar-be-que ribs when I posted and was hungry.
Brent
P.S. By the way, it was very good.
P.P.S. Zeevette. Synergy books out less hours on the STS's for the install.
Mark is correct, the Z06 is much easier. And everything, is much easier if you do it more than once. Hence, the delimma for the DIY'er. Time and effort. For someone with your talent, you would just find it be some work.
Excuse the short reply, I was cooking flank steak and bar-be-que ribs when I posted and was hungry.
Brent
P.S. By the way, it was very good.
P.P.S. Zeevette. Synergy books out less hours on the STS's for the install.
Last edited by #001 2001 Z06; Nov 27, 2005 at 09:43 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07
Yeah well, Since their were two sets of pipes to run, it seemes like the second pipe went in easier, their is alor you cant see and alot of nust and bolts that are in odd places that need to be moved, amrk is right, if you go as fast as you can it can be done with two to three guys in a long weekend, id suggest at lease 2 weekends and 4 full install days, unfortunately time isnt something we had alot of.
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From: Chandler AZ
Originally Posted by zeevette
...it was supposed to be WAY easier...
Give the DIY's time to feedback to the vendors and/or manu... surely this kit will be a relatively easy install once the details get ironed out and documented in the instructions... independent field installs are always important for manu's marketing a kit as a DIY.
Bill
Last edited by Bill Reid; Nov 27, 2005 at 10:34 PM.
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From: Chandler AZ
Originally Posted by #001 2001 Z06
Excuse the short reply, I was cooking flank steak and bar-be-que ribs when I posted and was hungry.
... needless to say the manager gets upset when she has to thaw out more meat 
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From: San Bruno Ca
Originally Posted by NAVY08
HAHA i just spent all weekend with 4 guys who do know how to spin a wrench, its not going to take 2 days, their is alot of work and alot of pipes that dont fit that need to be fit, ill post a detailed install tonite, take a look.
I spin a wrench for a living, and one thing is sure, if you have not done this kit, you don't have a clue! I've built 5 cars, and I will say that this is labor intensive for a "bolt on kit".
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Originally Posted by TT_Vert-
good to read, this is now off my list, the only reason i contemplated it was because of the ease of install.
Dave
Dave
Hopefully the mentioned issues that resulted in such a lenghtly install would be address by the time I'm ready to purchase a kit, because I really would like to seriously consider the option of going TT. I won't write this kit off my list in stone just yet, we'll see how the "growing pains" improve. I wonder how long is takes to install Andy's new Vortech kit, or maybe even that new single turbo kit coming out. Good thing I have a few months to wait till I make a final decision.
I am definetely eagerly waiting to see the actual street results of these latest kit installs, though. I wish you guys the best on getting your Vettes back out on the street, with some happy results!!
Cheers and god bless,
Chris
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Originally Posted by #001 2001 Z06
Bill,
Mark is correct, the Z06 is much easier. And everything, is much easier if you do it more than once. Hence, the delimma for the DIY'er. Time and effort. For someone with your talent, you would just find it be some work.
Excuse the short reply, I was cooking flank steak and bar-be-que ribs when I posted and was hungry.
Brent
P.S. By the way, it was very good.
P.P.S. Zeevette. Synergy books out less hours on the STS's for the install.
Mark is correct, the Z06 is much easier. And everything, is much easier if you do it more than once. Hence, the delimma for the DIY'er. Time and effort. For someone with your talent, you would just find it be some work.
Excuse the short reply, I was cooking flank steak and bar-be-que ribs when I posted and was hungry.
Brent
P.S. By the way, it was very good.
P.P.S. Zeevette. Synergy books out less hours on the STS's for the install.
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
Originally Posted by JeremyMSG
I am confused on why there would be any difference between a Z06 and a Vertte, can someone please elaborate
I was thinking this route would be an easy way to go too.. might just to with the TTiX kit if this is that much of a pain.
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"I would think that this might be easier to guide the pipes on a ZO6 because of the venting in the rockers.. just my guess."
Very good guess.
With any new kit that comes to market. Time for installs will always be high. As pictures, data, instructions come out, that time is significantly reduced on almost any product cycle.
I can work on my car, as I have a lot of experience and have built some cars, parts from scratch.
Do I think my skills on working LS cars is the highest and best use of my time, absolutely not. Rick, Shawn or Bill at SynergyMotorsports.net would whip my tail silly by being ten times as efficient just walking through the job, just as if they were walking on the street. This is what they do all day, six days a week.
Brent
Very good guess.
With any new kit that comes to market. Time for installs will always be high. As pictures, data, instructions come out, that time is significantly reduced on almost any product cycle.
I can work on my car, as I have a lot of experience and have built some cars, parts from scratch.
Do I think my skills on working LS cars is the highest and best use of my time, absolutely not. Rick, Shawn or Bill at SynergyMotorsports.net would whip my tail silly by being ten times as efficient just walking through the job, just as if they were walking on the street. This is what they do all day, six days a week.
Brent