**OFFICIAL** STS C5 owners/installers thread
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hey guys,
I was speaking with Rick for awhile last night in regards to a few things. One of the things we covered was an upgrade for the turbos that will make them spool even faster. The upgrade should only be about $300. Plus he thinks it will make the car quieter as well. (not that everyone wants that) If anyone is interested let me know.
BTW, we have kits in stock so if anyone is looking for an install or over the counter sale, we can offer competitive pricing.
Doug
I was speaking with Rick for awhile last night in regards to a few things. One of the things we covered was an upgrade for the turbos that will make them spool even faster. The upgrade should only be about $300. Plus he thinks it will make the car quieter as well. (not that everyone wants that) If anyone is interested let me know.
BTW, we have kits in stock so if anyone is looking for an install or over the counter sale, we can offer competitive pricing.
Doug
#23
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Originally Posted by Jesse_Boyer
enlighten me on this upgrade, if you will. I'm always interested in spending more
#24
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The manual is copyrighted. This very much a real company, not a, "fly by night," turbo company.
Yes, Rick H.(Synergy) has been making improvements. I might even go see my car this week after my appointment.
Jason. Rick has a couple of, "bullet resistant(lol)," solutions for the airbridge. I am not sure if he will be able to mass produce these immediately.
He has a couple of other big products coming to market.
In spite what some others have said (some front mount guys) the measured thermal losses were only 1 PSI and that was thru cats. About 1/2 psi sounds right. If anyone want to argue the point. Take a look at any front mount race car and measure all the piping to the air/water intercooler, etc..
Brent
Yes, Rick H.(Synergy) has been making improvements. I might even go see my car this week after my appointment.
Jason. Rick has a couple of, "bullet resistant(lol)," solutions for the airbridge. I am not sure if he will be able to mass produce these immediately.
He has a couple of other big products coming to market.
In spite what some others have said (some front mount guys) the measured thermal losses were only 1 PSI and that was thru cats. About 1/2 psi sounds right. If anyone want to argue the point. Take a look at any front mount race car and measure all the piping to the air/water intercooler, etc..
Brent
#25
I'm another DIYer. I installed mine in October (Pre-production kit)
I have had no problems with the oil pump (I did the break-in procedure as described)
The car runs great. I am going to order another wastegate then turn up the boost!
The install is time consuming, but not hard. The tuning can take time.
The extras I installed include the BBK aluminum airbridge, LC-1 Wideband with digital display, and boost and fuel pressure guages.
I love the kit!
Good luck!
Tommy
I have had no problems with the oil pump (I did the break-in procedure as described)
The car runs great. I am going to order another wastegate then turn up the boost!
The install is time consuming, but not hard. The tuning can take time.
The extras I installed include the BBK aluminum airbridge, LC-1 Wideband with digital display, and boost and fuel pressure guages.
I love the kit!
Good luck!
Tommy
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Originally Posted by TaTommy888
I'm another DIYer. I installed mine in October (Pre-production kit)
I have had no problems with the oil pump (I did the break-in procedure as described)
The car runs great. I am going to order another wastegate then turn up the boost!
The install is time consuming, but not hard. The tuning can take time.
The extras I installed include the BBK aluminum airbridge, LC-1 Wideband with digital display, and boost and fuel pressure guages.
I love the kit!
Good luck!
Tommy
I have had no problems with the oil pump (I did the break-in procedure as described)
The car runs great. I am going to order another wastegate then turn up the boost!
The install is time consuming, but not hard. The tuning can take time.
The extras I installed include the BBK aluminum airbridge, LC-1 Wideband with digital display, and boost and fuel pressure guages.
I love the kit!
Good luck!
Tommy
#27
Originally Posted by Cajundude
How much boost has the BBK seen? I'm about to pull the trigger on that, just hoping to hear confirmation that is going to work and work well. Don't want to spend $300 just to pop it in half.
The only cons are heat soak (since it is not plastic), and the weight (more than plastic!)
But as far as durability, it is an non-issue!
Tommy
#28
Doug,
Can you give some more info about this upgrade?
Lewis
Can you give some more info about this upgrade?
Lewis
Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
hey guys,
I was speaking with Rick for awhile last night in regards to a few things. One of the things we covered was an upgrade for the turbos that will make them spool even faster. The upgrade should only be about $300. Plus he thinks it will make the car quieter as well. (not that everyone wants that) If anyone is interested let me know.
BTW, we have kits in stock so if anyone is looking for an install or over the counter sale, we can offer competitive pricing.
Doug
I was speaking with Rick for awhile last night in regards to a few things. One of the things we covered was an upgrade for the turbos that will make them spool even faster. The upgrade should only be about $300. Plus he thinks it will make the car quieter as well. (not that everyone wants that) If anyone is interested let me know.
BTW, we have kits in stock so if anyone is looking for an install or over the counter sale, we can offer competitive pricing.
Doug
#29
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What is the freakin upgrade already . And are there any solid soltions for the airbridge ordeal. Mine is being completed at this very moment so I want to know what is the best for sloving the problem.
#30
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Originally Posted by Jesse_Boyer
scuba: any noise or anything unusual from this pump?
what's causing the crankcase boost issue? rings? It's not STS related, is it? I mean, would you have the same issue with any FI (issue is with the motor, not the kit).
what's causing the crankcase boost issue? rings? It's not STS related, is it? I mean, would you have the same issue with any FI (issue is with the motor, not the kit).
Get a good tune, Synergy did the tune on my car. It runs pretty strong.
#31
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by Jesse_Boyer
I'm not sure if anyone with an STS kit has cracked/ruined the stock air bridge, but I'm told it's only a matter of time if you're running more than 6psi. The general solution has been to buy an aluminum unit by BBK (#17260, I think), but they are on back order for atleast 2-weeks!
You can find them at this link and they'll match Summit Racing's price of $270. Simply tell them you'd like the same deal I, Jesse Boyer, received.
NOTE: I checked www.thunderracing.com and www.tbyrne.com and neither had it. If any sponsor actually carries this, I'd like the mods to remove this link. Please replace the this link with the appropriate sponsor's link!
http://performance.speedycarparts.com/bbk~tb.html
You can find them at this link and they'll match Summit Racing's price of $270. Simply tell them you'd like the same deal I, Jesse Boyer, received.
NOTE: I checked www.thunderracing.com and www.tbyrne.com and neither had it. If any sponsor actually carries this, I'd like the mods to remove this link. Please replace the this link with the appropriate sponsor's link!
http://performance.speedycarparts.com/bbk~tb.html
#32
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by TaTommy888
I'm not even sure if the jaws-of-life will pop this thing in half!!! It is VERY solid and thick.
The only cons are heat soak (since it is not plastic), and the weight (more than plastic!)
But as far as durability, it is an non-issue!
Tommy
The only cons are heat soak (since it is not plastic), and the weight (more than plastic!)
But as far as durability, it is an non-issue!
Tommy
Tommy is right on all aspects.
#33
Melting Slicks
IAT for STS TT
I've driven my car everyday since Thanksgiving weekend. I've checked the air supply tubes to the intercooler and also place my hands on the intercooler. Let me tell you that this system runs super cool. The tubes to the intercooler seem to get about 5 deg. warmer other metal areas on my car.So far no detonation either.
#34
Originally Posted by Scubanme
Nothing unusual from the pump at all. Actually the kit has proven quite good except the crank case boost issue. It's not the rings I think that it maybe because it's a 99 block and pvc set-up. I may look into a catch can or a evac system.
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I tried the LS6 PCV update, catch can, even an electric vacuum pump setup! Not much difference...
It ran fine, but it consumed oil, and blew smoke. I never took the plunge and had the engine re-ringed, because it did not seem to hinder performance.
(I'm assuming these are the issues you are referring to when you say crank case boost issues.)
Tommy
#35
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Option information directly from STS"
"As far as sound levels go, the base TT kit is what I would call "Agressive". Not obnoxious enough to attract the attention of law officers by any means but she sounds like she's a runner. We have had some custom turbine housings cast up and now have them in stock. They are a direct replacement and install in about ˝ hr. I would recommend these for all high-altitude Vette’s but they are a great addition to any system. The A/R is slightly tighter which gives you about 500 rpm quicker spool up which makes driving the car even more fun. There is no detectable high rpm power loss at base boost levels. Our prototype Z06 made 560rwhp at 6 psi w/ these housings. Obviously any car running high boost or running slightly larger displacement would run the standard turbine housings (The really big hp cars or big displacement engines will actually run a larger one). These housings completely get rid of the drone on the freeway between 2k and 3k rpm. The car sounds great and is very responsive in the lower-mid rpm range.
Talk to you all later, Rick @ STS"
"As far as sound levels go, the base TT kit is what I would call "Agressive". Not obnoxious enough to attract the attention of law officers by any means but she sounds like she's a runner. We have had some custom turbine housings cast up and now have them in stock. They are a direct replacement and install in about ˝ hr. I would recommend these for all high-altitude Vette’s but they are a great addition to any system. The A/R is slightly tighter which gives you about 500 rpm quicker spool up which makes driving the car even more fun. There is no detectable high rpm power loss at base boost levels. Our prototype Z06 made 560rwhp at 6 psi w/ these housings. Obviously any car running high boost or running slightly larger displacement would run the standard turbine housings (The really big hp cars or big displacement engines will actually run a larger one). These housings completely get rid of the drone on the freeway between 2k and 3k rpm. The car sounds great and is very responsive in the lower-mid rpm range.
Talk to you all later, Rick @ STS"
#36
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by TaTommy888
This is EXACTLY why I went with a 2002 or newer car since GM finally realized their low tension oil rings were not working out! I used to have a 2000 TA, and that thing blew smoke like I was playing spy-hunter!
I tried the LS6 PCV update, catch can, even an electric vacuum pump setup! Not much difference...
It ran fine, but it consumed oil, and blew smoke. I never took the plunge and had the engine re-ringed, because it did not seem to hinder performance.
(I'm assuming these are the issues you are referring to when you say crank case boost issues.)
Tommy
I tried the LS6 PCV update, catch can, even an electric vacuum pump setup! Not much difference...
It ran fine, but it consumed oil, and blew smoke. I never took the plunge and had the engine re-ringed, because it did not seem to hinder performance.
(I'm assuming these are the issues you are referring to when you say crank case boost issues.)
Tommy
tommy/scuba,
maybe this is a dumb question, but I'm asking it anyway.
does the oil pump push hard enough to push air into the CC causing the CCP issue?
Jesse
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I must be blind because I can't find my instructions for the oil pump break in. Can anyone enlighten me? Direct hookup to the batt? Let run 5 mins.? Thanks!
#38
Originally Posted by Jesse_Boyer
tommy/scuba,
maybe this is a dumb question, but I'm asking it anyway.
does the oil pump push hard enough to push air into the CC causing the CCP issue?
Jesse
maybe this is a dumb question, but I'm asking it anyway.
does the oil pump push hard enough to push air into the CC causing the CCP issue?
Jesse
I don't know if the oil would do that, but my feeling is no, since the oil is essentially a closed system, so whatever is being pumped back in came from the crankcase in the first place.
There is such a thing as a dumb question, but yours was NOT one of them!
BTW, I am not having any CCP issues with my car.
Tommy
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Originally Posted by Cajundude
I must be blind because I can't find my instructions for the oil pump break in. Can anyone enlighten me? Direct hookup to the batt? Let run 5 mins.? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Hammer
Option information directly from STS"
"As far as sound levels go, the base TT kit is what I would call "Agressive". Not obnoxious enough to attract the attention of law officers by any means but she sounds like she's a runner. We have had some custom turbine housings cast up and now have them in stock. They are a direct replacement and install in about ˝ hr. I would recommend these for all high-altitude Vette’s but they are a great addition to any system. The A/R is slightly tighter which gives you about 500 rpm quicker spool up which makes driving the car even more fun. There is no detectable high rpm power loss at base boost levels. Our prototype Z06 made 560rwhp at 6 psi w/ these housings. Obviously any car running high boost or running slightly larger displacement would run the standard turbine housings (The really big hp cars or big displacement engines will actually run a larger one). These housings completely get rid of the drone on the freeway between 2k and 3k rpm. The car sounds great and is very responsive in the lower-mid rpm range.
Talk to you all later, Rick @ STS"
"As far as sound levels go, the base TT kit is what I would call "Agressive". Not obnoxious enough to attract the attention of law officers by any means but she sounds like she's a runner. We have had some custom turbine housings cast up and now have them in stock. They are a direct replacement and install in about ˝ hr. I would recommend these for all high-altitude Vette’s but they are a great addition to any system. The A/R is slightly tighter which gives you about 500 rpm quicker spool up which makes driving the car even more fun. There is no detectable high rpm power loss at base boost levels. Our prototype Z06 made 560rwhp at 6 psi w/ these housings. Obviously any car running high boost or running slightly larger displacement would run the standard turbine housings (The really big hp cars or big displacement engines will actually run a larger one). These housings completely get rid of the drone on the freeway between 2k and 3k rpm. The car sounds great and is very responsive in the lower-mid rpm range.
Talk to you all later, Rick @ STS"