Nitrous v Natural
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From: Edmond OK
Nitrous is a lot of fun if used right. But I'm not big on the guys that throw a 300shot on a 400hp motor. I prefer building a 500hp+ big cube motor and putting a 100-150 shot (at most) to it. That's a lot less stress on the motor, and a little extra power is there when you want it. It's a lot of fun!
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From: ECS : WTF did you break now and HTF did you break it this time
not at all, my nitrous pig is my 5700 lb tahoe tow rig. big ol 502 crate motor doin 500/560, which is more than enough for most of the time, when I feel like really shutting some people up there's a 200 shot to shock the hell out of people with a big heavy truck, truck has more than ample power 95% of the time but sometimes its nice to flip the switch. Nitrous is great for part time power
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Originally Posted by ivandrea
Sometimes you need a little rise to make it feel good. 
Think it would look good on my 04 Coupe?
Last edited by Vega$Vette; Jul 21, 2006 at 08:30 PM.
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
Ok guys don't get mad. But isn't using Nitrous like giving Viagra to you car.
If you can't GET IT naturally why bother?
If you can't GET IT naturally why bother?
Robert
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Originally Posted by Robert56
Well, ignorance is bliss for some... I will offer to run your many $$ bolt on car against my few $$ absolutely bone stock long block car with a small dry shot? If that dosen't help put your foot in your mouth I don't know what will. Ok now, don't get mad, put up the goods. Oh by the way, isn't putting mucho cash into bolt ons and only getting 405hp like taking Viagra in vain?
Robert
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The difference is I have that power all the time. What do you get out of a bottle maybe 2 minutes max.
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
I guess that's why you guys are called bottle-fed
The difference is I have that power all the time. What do you get out of a bottle maybe 2 minutes max.
The difference is I have that power all the time. What do you get out of a bottle maybe 2 minutes max.
Robert
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From: Southampton NJ
Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
I guess that's why you guys are called bottle-fed
The difference is I have that power all the time. What do you get out of a bottle maybe 2 minutes max.
The difference is I have that power all the time. What do you get out of a bottle maybe 2 minutes max.
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Originally Posted by Robert56
Well, now that I think about it. I will run your bolt on car against my stock long block car, with out nitrous. Then when you still get your azz handed to ya, maybe you'll be considering bottle feeding so you can play with the big dogs (see sig for n/a stockish time).
Robert
Robert
All kidding aside. Honestly, I blow away stock C5 ZO6's easy. Your non spray #'s are great you must have at least 4:10's and sticky tires on a well prepped track. And from looking at your time slip you know how to drive.
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
Let me see... Stock ZO6 = approx 365 rwhp against my A4 with 403 rwhp and 3:73's On the street makes me the azz hander and you the handee? On the strip probably you win.
All kidding aside. Honestly, I blow away stock C5 ZO6's easy. Your non spray #'s are great you must have at least 4:10's and sticky tires on a well prepped track. And from looking at your time slip you know how to drive.
All kidding aside. Honestly, I blow away stock C5 ZO6's easy. Your non spray #'s are great you must have at least 4:10's and sticky tires on a well prepped track. And from looking at your time slip you know how to drive.
Robert
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From: Wesley Chapel, FL Las Vegas, NV
Originally Posted by Robert56
Actually, what makes the Z06 so fast and quick can be summed up in one word: M12. You see the gearing in the M12 allows for a virtual 4.10 rear ratio in 1st gear, 3.90 in 2nd gear, 3.73 in 3rd gear and back to stock 3.42 in 4th gear. I also, shift at 6500rpm. So, not only will the Z06 be faster on the 60'er, but also on the top end. In conclusion, a 403rwhp C5 with 4.11's would give the stock Z06 a run for it's money (maybe), however, if you put the street senerio with braking, cornering, accecleration and top end the Z06 will have the edge. Now I go by the motto of "Run what ya brung, and hope it's enough", so, if by some remote chance you were to pull me somewhere on the street course (closed naturally), I would use at least one of my stages to blow by ya. Starting to see the benifits, only stressing your motor when wanted or needed. Just so you know, I am not busting your *****, and hope you don't think this is a personal attack, cause it taint.
Robert
Robert
Your explaination may help to explain what you seem to believe is a phenonum. That is with a 6 speed on the street the driver can not get the power to the ground effectively at launch. You, because of you driving experience may be the exception to the rule.
Years ago I bought a new 1969 Z28. (lots of years ago) I'd put some slicks on, go to the track, launch at 7800 and shift at 8200 to run a low 13 - high 12. On the street I'd get beat by big block 2 speed autos that were lucky to run below a 15 at the track. Why? Simple the guys with the big block autos were getting the power to the ground while I was either bogging by lauching to low in a effort to minimize tire spin or going up in smoke.
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From: Dublin GA
Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
I guess that's why you guys are called bottle-fed
The difference is I have that power all the time. What do you get out of a bottle maybe 2 minutes max.
The difference is I have that power all the time. What do you get out of a bottle maybe 2 minutes max.
Heeeyyy be careful there now.. Don't be slandering my username
I've used N2O for over 20years, and have used the same master plan everytime; Build a super strong STREET car that will blow the doors off of 85% of the cars I will encounter, while still being able to cruise all day long with the AC on, then add a large, but safe shot of N2O to take care of another 12% I might come up against. (There's always someone faster!) This way, I can have a car that is fun, dependable, and still able to blow away those $100,000 plus cars if given the oppurtunity
By the way, 403 is not near enough hp to be rufflin the feathers of some of these guys
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more ls records have been broken on the juice then any other power add er ... gas them & pass them !!!! what other power afects the start of the power curve & the end like no2.. yes ther are lots of down side..but if winning is imporant no2 is your freind !!!!
what other power afects the start of the power curve & the end like no2.. yes ther are lots of down side..but if winning is imporant no2 is your freind !!!!
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From: Toronto Ontario
Originally Posted by roythomas
more ls records have been broken on the juice then any other power add er ... gas them & pass them !!!! what other power afects the start of the power curve & the end like no2.. yes ther are lots of down side..but if winning is imporant no2 is your freind !!!!
what other power afects the start of the power curve & the end like no2.. yes ther are lots of down side..but if winning is imporant no2 is your freind !!!!
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From: Tacoma WA
Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
I appreciate the info, however on the street, closed course, from a dead stop I have yet to see the back of a stock or slightly modified ZO6
Your explaination may help to explain what you seem to believe is a phenonum. That is with a 6 speed on the street the driver can not get the power to the ground effectively at launch. You, because of you driving experience may be the exception to the rule.
Years ago I bought a new 1969 Z28. (lots of years ago) I'd put some slicks on, go to the track, launch at 7800 and shift at 8200 to run a low 13 - high 12. On the street I'd get beat by big block 2 speed autos that were lucky to run below a 15 at the track. Why? Simple the guys with the big block autos were getting the power to the ground while I was either bogging by lauching to low in a effort to minimize tire spin or going up in smoke.
Your explaination may help to explain what you seem to believe is a phenonum. That is with a 6 speed on the street the driver can not get the power to the ground effectively at launch. You, because of you driving experience may be the exception to the rule.
Years ago I bought a new 1969 Z28. (lots of years ago) I'd put some slicks on, go to the track, launch at 7800 and shift at 8200 to run a low 13 - high 12. On the street I'd get beat by big block 2 speed autos that were lucky to run below a 15 at the track. Why? Simple the guys with the big block autos were getting the power to the ground while I was either bogging by lauching to low in a effort to minimize tire spin or going up in smoke.
If you look at the times of bone stock cars, you'll see that a stock tire can still produce some great times, now throw a set of DRs on and 11.5x is the top stockish phenomenon, or more like, not that unusall.
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