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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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I been wandering how much HP my P1-SC will put out? Now im not talking like with the motor, but jus the supercharger!! I was wandering this since i picked up about 150 hp when it got installed and im pushing 7-8 lbs would i see like 300 hp at 14-16 lbs? Im trying to figure this out so i can think about what kind of motor set-up would work best with a certain amount of boost Thanks JAY
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Hi Jay, how do you like the P1sc head unit? I'm looking at either the P1 or the D1 myself.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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According to Procharger's site, the P1SC is capable of 30psi and flows 1200cfm. I think that, depending on engine modifications, you'll run into diminishing returns at some point. I think the increase in power is 100% linear either, but I could be wrong.

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According to Procharger's site, the P1SC is capable of 30psi and flows 1200cfm. I think that, depending on engine modifications, you'll run into diminishing returns at some point. I think the increase in power is 100% linear either, but I could be wrong.
The P1 maxes out aroudn 14psi, from what i understand.
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stangkiller
The P1 maxes out aroudn 14psi, from what i understand.
In the real world, that very well may be the case. I only repeated what I saw on Procharger's website, which also states that the P1SC will support up to 825hp.

Those might be inflated numbers from Procharger, which wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Originally Posted by LinearX
In the real world, that very well may be the case. I only repeated what I saw on Procharger's website, which also states that the P1SC will support up to 825hp.

Those might be inflated numbers from Procharger, which wouldn't surprise me at all.
from what i understand 14psi is about it for a P1 anything over that it's time to go to a D1. I don't plan on even attempting to push my p1 over 600hp. I'll use the juice for anything more.

Also remember, you need a SMALLER pulley on the P1 to make the same boost as the D1. Therefore belt slip becoems more of an issue when trying to push the P1 as compared to the d1.
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I would personally recomend a D1sc simply because if your tastes change EX:you now do a stroker to 382/402,or 427 the P1 will not support the added displacement adequitly.If you choose to forge a stock 346 and lower your CR to 8.5:1 you will want upwards of 20+ Lbs of boost and have the right intercoolers to support a cool dense fuel/air charge.(pump,boost a pump and injectors)
If you change again as I did with a sroker 4.6 Cobra at 8.5:1 CR and moving fro 264 CI to 318 CI the D1sc was upgraded for under 2,000 if my memory serves us to a F1 and now at 30 Lbs its now an F1R and is pushing out 32 Lbs. with no strain.
IMHO ATI builds the finest centfical blowers in mod land.I am now back to 264CI but the motor is all drag not close to street legal and will push out enough power from the F1r to break the power and Tqe. needed to be in the mid to High 7's.
I love all brands of cars but even though I have been driving both 8 and 12 cylinder Ferraris(daily drive now an F1 575M) for years,once HRE refinishes all 4 outers on my 547's the 01' 427 C5R TT will be my daily driver instead of a 580 rwhp 3100 Lb. C6 Zo6 which at 3100 Lbs wet and all motor with just a forged bottom end 11.0:1-12:1 CR(at below 525 rwhp chances are the stock LS7 Bottom end is strong enough.)WE have a secret weopan cylinder head which is trick to say the least,combined with 17/8" kooks long tubes and halltech filter,stock exhaust and cam which is what will make the transition from a 500 rwhp motor to upwards of 600 on a stock 93 octane requirments,even though some are tuned for 91 if the customer is happy with 520 which as an enthusiast engine builder for 40+ years now,its probably a hi 10 second car at 520-530.
Were doing a bit to improve on the stock suspension and brakes,by increasing chasis ridgity by a good %ge and using Brembo 4 piston 14" rotor and just for a balanced look 14" cross drilled Brembo rotors,stock caliper and braided Goodrich lines for a great pedal and we leave the proportioning front and rear stock.
I have 13" Brembos on my Ferrari 575M and GT's on the front only and a 14" cryogenic Zinc washed 2 piece rear rotor wit Brembo or Zo6 pads to even out the looks will make a huge differance over stock and its a house on wheels.(The zinc color copper like is gone in 20-40 miles to a nice bright rotor,polished almost)
I was about to pull the trigger on a F430 coupe with F1 trans.at 60k over sticker,The Zo6 at 550 -600 rwhp and coil overs,bars and shocks with tunnel plate and 4 PT. roll cage will simply blow it away,even with poor hook up,but better lateral acceleration,faster 100-0 times(with Brembos up front)(and faster 0-100) and all the tricks we build a chasis that out grips,out corners and by a long shot out accelerates the 430 from off idle to top end which we guestimate conservatively a top speed of 212 -218.The top speed with its amazing power to weight ratio is held back only by stock aerodynamics and some amazing,reasonably priced and HOT LOOKING!!!!! kits are there for the pickin'
With aero enhancements it may crush my C5R twin Turbo 01' ZEEEE06,which the same car was clocked over 220 but the aero upgrades were huge the C6 from head lights back will slice through the wind and just like the F430 coupe with a little help.
I can honestly say that I do this as trophy Biz and not at all for income.
I and my team are putting more smiles on peoples faces from all 50 states (well not quite yet,but working on it)and eventually just like the C5 and C5 ZEEE06 we should soon start shipping to Europe and the middle east.Being I dont have to worry about making tons of dough or any at all and I have a great paid crew and incentives are for perfect build quality not if you beat the flat rate and we realize a 200.00 addtional profit,we take our time and after a certain ammount of time goes buy and we made our 90 day follow up to find either perfection and in many casses I would like the car to also do?????
Thats how my team is paid and its very important to come as close as possible to 100% satisfaction,and not worry about advertising we are 100% word of mouth,and its seems since I came back 8-12 weeks ago things are on a very steady upswing and the C6 buyers cant get enough adrenaline and safety.
It's truly a blessing to want to get into work early AM and stay late for that last pick up that took 6+ weeks,and make the proud owner of the 06' Zeee06 smile from ear to ear.
Tonight its was a pulmonary surgeon and when he drove it he came back in with accolades for the team and wanted to start planning his future goals with the LMB Zeee,and threw a couple of hugs our way.
I'm always wordy SORRY I'm just so excited 'cause we delivered alot of cars today and I know Team XTREME came through past there wildest dreams,and these are people who have owned Hi HP cars like C5R TT's and 427 C5r with alot of flow port matching from Tuners who satisfied them and these are all teams I would be honored to have work on any of my cars,well maybe not my stock 95'Stang its a stock 6 cyl. motor but it has a 400 rwhp rear spoiler top speed of 118 and a week to 10 days in the 1320.
Thanks for sharing my excitement please dont rain on my parade if its to much pass it by and yes my grammer and spelling are those of a 9th grade dropout which is part of who I am.
Most important,my child bride and I are going to see the WHO at the Hollywood Bowl next Sunday and were 5th row center so wish us a happy 5TH its the 3rd so you know its a charm.
Stay Safe and drive with emotion,Dave Smilovic
XTREME MOTOR SPORTS/Tempe AZ.
Sales@xms engineering.com (redoing the site) 480-517-4969
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:58 AM
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thanks for the replys i have been lloking at going to a 382 and was curious what i could do with the p1-sc
vettechic- I like the p1-sc, it has a low whine to it and people know you have somthing under the hood !!! and i didnt want to tap my oil pan and all that stuff either !! I would say the d1-sc sound like the way to go , but im happy with what i have jay
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ITS VAL
I would personally recomend a D1sc simply because if your tastes change EX:you now do a stroker to 382/402,or 427 the P1 will not support the added displacement adequitly.If you choose to forge a stock 346 and lower your CR to 8.5:1 you will want upwards of 20+ Lbs of boost and have the right intercoolers to support a cool dense fuel/air charge.(pump,boost a pump and injectors)
If you change again as I did with a sroker 4.6 Cobra at 8.5:1 CR and moving fro 264 CI to 318 CI the D1sc was upgraded for under 2,000 if my memory serves us to a F1 and now at 30 Lbs its now an F1R and is pushing out 32 Lbs. with no strain.
IMHO ATI builds the finest centfical blowers in mod land.I am now back to 264CI but the motor is all drag not close to street legal and will push out enough power from the F1r to break the power and Tqe. needed to be in the mid to High 7's.
I love all brands of cars but even though I have been driving both 8 and 12 cylinder Ferraris(daily drive now an F1 575M) for years,once HRE refinishes all 4 outers on my 547's the 01' 427 C5R TT will be my daily driver instead of a 580 rwhp 3100 Lb. C6 Zo6 which at 3100 Lbs wet and all motor with just a forged bottom end 11.0:1-12:1 CR(at below 525 rwhp chances are the stock LS7 Bottom end is strong enough.)WE have a secret weopan cylinder head which is trick to say the least,combined with 17/8" kooks long tubes and halltech filter,stock exhaust and cam which is what will make the transition from a 500 rwhp motor to upwards of 600 on a stock 93 octane requirments,even though some are tuned for 91 if the customer is happy with 520 which as an enthusiast engine builder for 40+ years now,its probably a hi 10 second car at 520-530.
Were doing a bit to improve on the stock suspension and brakes,by increasing chasis ridgity by a good %ge and using Brembo 4 piston 14" rotor and just for a balanced look 14" cross drilled Brembo rotors,stock caliper and braided Goodrich lines for a great pedal and we leave the proportioning front and rear stock.
I have 13" Brembos on my Ferrari 575M and GT's on the front only and a 14" cryogenic Zinc washed 2 piece rear rotor wit Brembo or Zo6 pads to even out the looks will make a huge differance over stock and its a house on wheels.(The zinc color copper like is gone in 20-40 miles to a nice bright rotor,polished almost)
I was about to pull the trigger on a F430 coupe with F1 trans.at 60k over sticker,The Zo6 at 550 -600 rwhp and coil overs,bars and shocks with tunnel plate and 4 PT. roll cage will simply blow it away,even with poor hook up,but better lateral acceleration,faster 100-0 times(with Brembos up front)(and faster 0-100) and all the tricks we build a chasis that out grips,out corners and by a long shot out accelerates the 430 from off idle to top end which we guestimate conservatively a top speed of 212 -218.The top speed with its amazing power to weight ratio is held back only by stock aerodynamics and some amazing,reasonably priced and HOT LOOKING!!!!! kits are there for the pickin'
With aero enhancements it may crush my C5R twin Turbo 01' ZEEEE06,which the same car was clocked over 220 but the aero upgrades were huge the C6 from head lights back will slice through the wind and just like the F430 coupe with a little help.
I can honestly say that I do this as trophy Biz and not at all for income.
I and my team are putting more smiles on peoples faces from all 50 states (well not quite yet,but working on it)and eventually just like the C5 and C5 ZEEE06 we should soon start shipping to Europe and the middle east.Being I dont have to worry about making tons of dough or any at all and I have a great paid crew and incentives are for perfect build quality not if you beat the flat rate and we realize a 200.00 addtional profit,we take our time and after a certain ammount of time goes buy and we made our 90 day follow up to find either perfection and in many casses I would like the car to also do?????
Thats how my team is paid and its very important to come as close as possible to 100% satisfaction,and not worry about advertising we are 100% word of mouth,and its seems since I came back 8-12 weeks ago things are on a very steady upswing and the C6 buyers cant get enough adrenaline and safety.
It's truly a blessing to want to get into work early AM and stay late for that last pick up that took 6+ weeks,and make the proud owner of the 06' Zeee06 smile from ear to ear.
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