It's set in stone!!!
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Melting Slicks
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From: Bardstown Kentucky
It's set in stone!!!
I have finally made all the final decisions on my engine build and have pulled the trigger. Here is the complete list of my build. I will try to get some eye candy posted on here sometime.
LS6 Bottom End Finished to 3.905 bore
Manley -12cc Dish Pistons
Scat 6.100 H Beam Forged Rods
ECS Blower Cam and Double Roller Timing Chain
MLS Head Gaskets- .056 Compressed thickness
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs
Federal Mogul Bearings
Stage 5 Ported and Polished Heads
Ported Throttle Body
LS6 Intake
Vortech Supercharger-estimated 9psi.
ECS Alkycontrol Meth Kit (100% Methanol)
Spec Stage 3+ Clutch
That about does it....
Thanks ECS for all the help on my build and the parts. Also thanks to Brian over at SDPC.
Well... I am all ears guys!
I wanna hear the good, the bad, and the people riding the fence.
LS6 Bottom End Finished to 3.905 bore
Manley -12cc Dish Pistons
Scat 6.100 H Beam Forged Rods
ECS Blower Cam and Double Roller Timing Chain
MLS Head Gaskets- .056 Compressed thickness
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs
Federal Mogul Bearings
Stage 5 Ported and Polished Heads
Ported Throttle Body
LS6 Intake
Vortech Supercharger-estimated 9psi.
ECS Alkycontrol Meth Kit (100% Methanol)
Spec Stage 3+ Clutch
That about does it....
Thanks ECS for all the help on my build and the parts. Also thanks to Brian over at SDPC.
Well... I am all ears guys!
I wanna hear the good, the bad, and the people riding the fence.
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Congrats on finally pulling the trigger on your new combo.
What size Vortech head-unit will you be running? Did you go with the standard Vortech kit, or the DTE or A&A packages?
What is your power goal?
What size Vortech head-unit will you be running? Did you go with the standard Vortech kit, or the DTE or A&A packages?
What is your power goal?
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Best of luck on your project, looks very similar to my dream list of parts...however i would advise against the spec 3 Best of luck on your build!
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Melting Slicks
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I have searched all over for an engine builder in this area and finally found a guy named Dale Voyles to do it. I have heard good things about him and he is a very standup guy.
Thanks for all the comments guys! Keep 'em comin!
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Melting Slicks
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I would be happy with anything over 600RWHP. I could be way out of range with those thoughts but would love to see it.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
The last spec clutch that i installed did not even bolt up to the flywheel without having to drill out a hole. I've asked around and found this is actually fairly common. Having to drill out a pressure plate like that means likely the unit's not all that balanced either. I just highly recommend just about anything other than Spec or LUK.
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St. Jude Donor '06
What can one get the new textralia clutch and flywheel for on special?
CONGRATS on your KILLER forged LS6 motor which looks very impressive and should be able to withstand a lot of forced induction punishment!
CONGRATS on your KILLER forged LS6 motor which looks very impressive and should be able to withstand a lot of forced induction punishment!
Melting Slicks
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why cant the vortech s trim kit for the corvettes make big power. I just got out of the mustang community where they were making 500+rwhp on stock heads and 600+ with ported heads. I would think that if they could do that with a little 281 we should be able to do better with a 346
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I just highly recommend just about anything other than Spec or LUK.
I couldn't agree more with this statement. I've had both these clutches in my car when it was just head and cam. I smoked the Luk in less than a year(car only gets driven on the weekends) with only 486rwhp and never went to the track. I then switched over to the spec 3, went through the break in and it wouldn't shift at high rpm's. The shop put another spec in the car and after break in the same thing happened. They switched to a centerforce dual friction and I had no problems at all. I'm not saying I recommend the centerforce for your car just saying that I would stay away from the other brands mentioned. I also had a buddy of mine with and MTI 427 went with the spec and the same thing happened to his car with the high rpm shifts.
I couldn't agree more with this statement. I've had both these clutches in my car when it was just head and cam. I smoked the Luk in less than a year(car only gets driven on the weekends) with only 486rwhp and never went to the track. I then switched over to the spec 3, went through the break in and it wouldn't shift at high rpm's. The shop put another spec in the car and after break in the same thing happened. They switched to a centerforce dual friction and I had no problems at all. I'm not saying I recommend the centerforce for your car just saying that I would stay away from the other brands mentioned. I also had a buddy of mine with and MTI 427 went with the spec and the same thing happened to his car with the high rpm shifts.
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Melting Slicks
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why cant the vortech s trim kit for the corvettes make big power. I just got out of the mustang community where they were making 500+rwhp on stock heads and 600+ with ported heads. I would think that if they could do that with a little 281 we should be able to do better with a 346
Melting Slicks
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I could be way off on this but I know my boost issues are due to effeciency. The LS1 Flows so well it takes a larger blower to create boost. With less cubic inches and less airflow an s-trim will throw a lot of boost to a 281. The 9psi. on my ported engine is maxing out my S-Trim. Someone correct me if I am wrong with this.
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Melting Slicks
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What about a compromise??? Go stage 5 heads, and a t-trim.
Then that would be an adequate setup. Thats my plan in the near future, but the money isnt here for the t-trim. Hopefully next year I can upgrade to a T-trim and throw some boost at this thing. But honestly it does sound weird but it adds up, my car on 6psi did 509RWHP on a mustang dyno. I would think on a stock engine the same pulleys would do about the same power with more boost. Boost is simply restriction so its kind of give and take. High flow=Low boost=good power, Low Flow=High Boost=Same Good power. I prefer low boost good flow and a safe setup.
Then that would be an adequate setup. Thats my plan in the near future, but the money isnt here for the t-trim. Hopefully next year I can upgrade to a T-trim and throw some boost at this thing. But honestly it does sound weird but it adds up, my car on 6psi did 509RWHP on a mustang dyno. I would think on a stock engine the same pulleys would do about the same power with more boost. Boost is simply restriction so its kind of give and take. High flow=Low boost=good power, Low Flow=High Boost=Same Good power. I prefer low boost good flow and a safe setup.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Looks good to me. I will offer up the following advice. Run far and away from the federal mougal bearings. Oil pressure issue will follow soon behind. Buy Clevite bearings only. Same prices just a much better bering.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Congrats on the setup! I would strongly recommend to stay away from Spec as well. If at all, go with Textralia. Like someone mentioned ECS is running a special on them still.
I thought S trim was good upto 700+rwhp?
I thought S trim was good upto 700+rwhp?
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Melting Slicks
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Oh and I checked my bearings and they are clevite and dura bond cam bearings.
