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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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I have decided to go with a Kenne Bell for my '98 A4 vert. I am going to have Kenne Bell install and tune it at their shop in LA. I've been speaking with Ken at KB for the past week, we're working on our schedules to see when he can do it/when I can get it out there. It should be done in the next 6-8 weeks, we will be sure to post stock/installed and tuned dyno graphs. So For those who have been wondering how the KB set-up will work on a stock car, you're getting ready to find out!! My car is basically stock (GHL exhaust and blackwing) and has 48k miles.

You may have noticed that on KB's wbe site they list their Corvette kit only for '99-'04 models. They've never installed on on a '97 or '98 but Ken thinks there may be MINOR differences in the '97-'98's that they will have to work through. I agreed to let my car be their R&D guinea pig for a little love on the install and tune. So after my car is done those with '97 and '98's can go KB if they want knowing it has been R&D'd by KB themselves.

I'll tell you guys, I was losing sleep over the A&A, ECS, Maggie and KB and finally pulled the trigger with the KB. Andy at A&A and Doug at ECS answered a lot of questions for me (which I appreciate) but I feel the KB is the right application for my goals. I want the low end torque of a direct system, but was worried about heat soak in the Maggie out here in Sunny AZ.

I know, I know, call Rodney about a transmission!!

Woo-Hoooooo!! I'm really excited, will keep everyone posted.

Bob

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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Gentlemen......(and I use the term generously)

I have decided to go with a Kenne Bell for my '98 A4 vert. I am going to have Kenne Bell install and tune it at their shop in LA. I've been speaking with Ken at KB for the past week, we're working on our schedules to see when he can do it/when I can get it out there. It should be done in the next 6-8 weeks, we will be sure to post stock/installed and tuned dyno graphs. So For those who have been wondering how the KB set-up will work on a stock car, you're getting ready to find out!! My car is basically stock (GHL exhaust and blackwing) and has 48k miles.

You may have noticed that on KB's wbe site they list their Corvette kit only for '99-'04 models. They've never installed on on a '97 or '98 but Ken thinks there may be MINOR differences in the '97-'98's that they will have to work through. I agreed to let my car be their R&D guinea pig for a little love on the install and tune. So after my car is done those with '97 and '98's can go KB if they want knowing it has been R&D'd by KB themselves.

I'll tell you guys, I was losing sleep over the A&A, ECS, Maggie and KB and finally pulled the trigger with the KB. Andy at ECS and Doug at ECS answered a lot of questions for me (which I appreciate) but I feel the KB is the right application for my goals. I want to low end torque of a direct system, but was worried about heat soak in the Maggie out here in Sunny AZ.

I know, I know, call Rodney about a transmission!!

Woo-Hoooooo!! I'm really excited, will keep everyone posted.

Bob
CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!

Please post your dyno and impressions when you can.

Then,
PLEASE run the damn car at the track!!!!

I'm DYING to get timeslips and track videos for a KB!
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BobJ
. Andy at ECS and Doug at ECS answered a lot of questions for me
Congrats Bob, keep us posted on the results

By the way, when did we hire Andy
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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I would think the only real difference would be the fuel return line. Hopefully just a matter of putting a fitting on the fuel rail somewhere, but may need an additional regulator or something to keep pressure in the rails.

Good luck, should be simple enough.
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Can't wait to hear how it turns out. I've been arguing with myself over doing the same... you may push me over the edge..
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Welcome to the Kenne Bell club!! You are going to love it!
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Who is Kenne Bell?? And what does he do??
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NICE ONE.I WILL BE POSTING MY KB INSTALL REAL SOON.SAW THIS POST AND HAD TO BITE.HERE`S A LITTLE TASTE OF WHAT YOUR ABOUT TO RECEIVE.

CAN`T SHOW ANY MORE TOP SECRECT,......FOR NOW.WERE THE HELL
IS MY HOOD. LATER .DAVE
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I think the KB hood would look far better on a vert than a couple.

Would like to see the pics when done.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Congrats on the new setup.You will have to stop by and show it off here at the shop.

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Originally Posted by BobJ
I want to low end torque of a direct system, but was worried about heat soak in the Maggie out here in Sunny AZ.

Bob
Is the Kenne Bell supposed to be more resistant or more capable of dissipating heat-soak then a maggie? Both are top mounted . . .

- Max
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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hope it goes well for you.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SmoothFRC
I would think the only real difference would be the fuel return line. Hopefully just a matter of putting a fitting on the fuel rail somewhere, but may need an additional regulator or something to keep pressure in the rails.

Good luck, should be simple enough.
That's what we both think it is.
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MadMaxZ06
Is the Kenne Bell supposed to be more resistant or more capable of dissipating heat-soak then a maggie? Both are top mounted . . .

- Max
This is from KB's web site....

What is the basic difference in operating principle between the Twin Screw, Roots type and centrifugals? All superchargers make good "peak" horsepower given the same boost level. Superchargers pump more air into the engine than it can normally use with the atmosphere's 14.7 psi boost. Hence the supercharger builds up back pressure (boost). The twin screw and Roots type are "positive displacement" superchargers and build the same boost at any rpm 2000 up. However, it is a well known fact that size for size the twin screw is much more efficient than the Roots type (lower discharge temp and less parasitic loss). The centrifugal is not a positive displacement type. It is essentially a belt, ball or gear driven turbocharger which pumps relatively little air flow at the low and mid range rpm bands. It depends solely on engine rpm to build boost. The higher the rpm, the higher the boost - typically 1 psi per 1000 rpm on a 5-6 psi kit. The delivery air volume increases as the square of the rotational speed of the impeller. Nothing (advertising, opinions, or spin Doctors etc.) can change these basic physical operating principles
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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Thanks for all the well wishes guys. We'll post dyno stuff as soon as we get it, not sure when I'll get it to the track.

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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NoOne
I think the KB hood would look far better on a vert than a couple.

Would like to see the pics when done.
I'll be sure to post some!!
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Who is Kenne Bell?? And what does he do??
I told Ken they should be paying you comission!!
You passion for their system definitely had an impact on my decision, thank you!

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Originally Posted by hattitude
Can't wait to hear how it turns out. I've been arguing with myself over doing the same... you may push me over the edge..
Maybe you should go up and see them do the install / dyno? They're right by Ontario airport.
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They are.. (Well Kinda) When I flew out there for the afternoon yesterday, Me Jim and Ken went out to lunch. Jim bought me the best damn BBQ I have ever eaten.. I think between the 3 of us we went through half a cow..

Thats payment enough for me...


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I told Ken they should be paying you comission!!
You passion for their system definitely had an impact on my decision, thank you!
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