In an earlier thread i started the other day i was asking about the e-bay twin turbo kit for 2500.00 many forum members told me this was a scam and no one actually had this kit or had ever heard of it.I had already bid on it but lost. now i get a message from e=bay tellin me the deal fell through and i can do a second chance buy for 2800.00.
I still feel like it may be a scam but my question is, they have been selling other parts and have 100% feedback so why scam on this one part?
I also realize they used someone elses car on their site without permission. Im not gonna buy the kit im just a little curious because i know a few people thought the e-bay headers were a scam at first but they wound up being a good deal imo.

 

As long as you could buy through paypal you would have the paypal protection which is pretty safe...

 

they do accept paypal

 

It's not that you won't get the parts, i think i may just be the quality of the parts.

1. You don't know what turbos those are. I will tell you from experience, that the ebay turbos suck. The are balanced horribly, i have seen some that don't even spin unless you really hit the gas.

2. Your going to spend a lot of time and effort trying to find all the other necessary pieces to put it together.

3. Nobody backs it. You can't even call them

I'm not going to tell you not to buy it, i would actually like to hears a members feedback on the product, i can only assume the quality of the parts is very poor.

 

I would not buy, but it looks like everything is there. He mostly likely had one of his buddies bid on it. Trying to get the most for it, then he goes down the line for second chance offers.

 

I agree with Mr. Big. You'll probably get your parts, but how good can they possibly be for $2800 bucks. The profit margin is not huge on the big name turbo systems and they all go for at least $7000.

 

honestly... one of the venders (who doesn't have their own TT kit) should buy one and give us the nasty, dirty details about this kit to stop all the speculation. If it's legit, figure out HOW they've provided a decent product at rock-bottom prices.

My honest opinion? This falls under the 'too good to be true' logic. You can barely buy excellent TURBOs for that price, let alone all the hardware. So, as Mr. Big stated, you're probably getting 'Wal-Mart' turbos. Furthermore, there's a great deal of tooling costs that goes into making the pipes, manifolds, I/C, etc. Plus, clamps, bolts, gaskets, etc. Even if they STOLE the engineering efforts from someone else and built every thing overseas. If you're expecting good parts, this just doesn't add up ...

 

your right there mate!

i mena think of it this way, PTS/K that normal sell this kit chage $XXXX. now these kits are fabricated each time (harder than just picking up castings). so how can these guys make the kit for sooo much cheaper and it be the same???????

it would be very nice if it was true but i doubt it.

just my thoughts.

Chris.

 

As much as we really like you guys here You just cant produce a quality kit for that little of money. 2 good turbos themselves can run almost that much. Like people have stated. Its probably a very shotty kit with no tech support.

 

It is very clear that everything that this clown is selling is Chinese made knock-off crap.

The actual manufacturer of the wastegates and the turbos was at the SEMA show, they want $20 for a Tial looking wastegates and $200 for virtually any turbo you want.

This guy most likely bought a PTK kit and sent to China and had it copied.

 

I would put all my money on that bet

Keith

 

Basically, if your dumb enough to buy it, you deserve what you get. We all want good deals, but you have to use common sense. You see on the forums all the guys with tens of thousands in mods, done and redone, updated, and finally get an "end result" that is reliable, fast, etc. You think you can spend $2800 and get anyways CLOSE is not reasonable. If you buy it, instal it and it burns you car down, no one will sympathize...there are tons of members and foum vendors that have products for sale that are proven and well researched.

God save the idiot who chimes in here saying..."I bought a cheap piece of **** turbo kit from ebay for a ridiculously low price, no name on it, no one to call for support, and I am having trouble with the install/tuning/etc. Who do you think would come to your aid in a situation like that? A vendor who sells good kits, or maybe a forum member with $50K in mods to his car?????

Pass on the obvious scam pice of junk turbo kit and keep it stock or save money amd mod it the right way.

SRG

 

I have watched 4 auctions for the same turbo kit from this seller on ebay.1 was buy it now for $2874.99.The rest were actual auctions that all ended around $2650.00 to $3251.00.With the bidders info not being listed and all the auctions ending in the ballpark of the first auctions buy it now price one can only assume the seller has someone jacking the bids up.I still have all the auction item #'s

250086900214, 250085153797, 250082671694, 250080593387
And now there is another up for bid as I write this: 250088575907.

I wonder what that will go for.

 

The following sayings come to mind.

"Do it once, do it right."
"Buy cheap, buy twice."
"You get what you pay for."

There are several companies that offer similar kits for imports. From my experience and seeing several people with these kits, I can't stress enough to stay away.

From the wastegates literally falling off, the manifolds falling off, the turbos falling apart and the headaches that go along with it. Having the car towed, downtime, labor to remove the kit, and replace damaged parts.

 

I totally Agree! ! !

 

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1635279[/url]

 

theres one on the for sale right now in the c-5 parts section pics look like the e-bay kit

 

If I had money I didn't know what to do with I would give it a try but I don't

 

I agree hole-heartedly with every thing you said above, but I still believe one of the great reliable venders (yes, Chris, I originally thinking ECS when I concocted this idea) should install/test/tune one.

1. it is very likely a Chinese knockoff... but look at how many things are ALSO Chinese knockoffs. Sam Walton made a great living selling stuff just like this. I had a $25 complete POS DVD player in college and it worked flawlessly for years (still does), but my highly rated Harman Kardon died long before. Yes, the HK looked great while it worked, better than the cheap-o, but it did have component video. Hell, we're about to have Chinese CARS in this country for MUCH less than what we can make them for and they'll sell like HOTCAKES. Just because it's Chinese doesn't mean it's completely, 100% useless.

This may actually perform… but how well? It's not likely to perform like the PTK system (or any of the major players), but no one knows for sure. How long will the turbos last? No one knows. How good are the clamps/couplers/intercoolers/turbos/etc? NO ONE KNOWS. Period. Anything beyond that is speculation, plain and simple. The exact same things can be said for many, MANY new parts. This is why everyone references that crazy 'proven track record' phrase when talking about those 'other' systems. They've been around longer, they can throw around that word.

Bottom line, if I still had a 'vette I'd have a campaign for donations and test this myself. Afterwards, I'd eBay it and the funds would go to St. Jude and I'd only be out my time.


and with that, I leave you. I have 8.5 hours of useless training to attend. I'll check on your [Chris] response later

 

Just from an ethical perspective, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 metre cattle prod.

They stole a picture of Nick Yoskin's car and falsely claimed this was a picture of their install....... what does that tell you about them?