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Old 04-23-2007, 03:16 PM
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Will be running Wed. Getting close.
Old 04-24-2007, 03:27 PM
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Will be running Wed. Getting close.
That's like tomorrow bro!!! I cant wait to read the outcome..
Old 04-24-2007, 08:55 PM
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That's like tomorrow bro!!! I cant wait to read the outcome..

Me 2!
Old 04-26-2007, 01:22 PM
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Can you tell me where you bought your heat shielding for the turbo turbine housings?
im sure he has no idea...
Old 04-27-2007, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by focnos
im sure he has no idea...

Wouldn't be the first time you underestimated me
Old 04-28-2007, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by focnos
im sure he has no idea...

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Old 04-28-2007, 08:00 AM
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Where is the update on this car?
Old 04-29-2007, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MDMCZ06
Wouldn't be the first time you underestimated me
where is the update on the car?? Hummm i never underestimate you....lol
Old 04-30-2007, 06:58 PM
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Where is the update on this car?
Earl the rear end shaft just arrived today. Should be driving shortly.
Old 04-30-2007, 09:38 PM
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Am I looking at the single pic right? That airfilter needs to be move into the FA stream. It looks like it is right behind the radiator....you will get nothing but hot air....is that just a prelim shot? I am sure Ed is on top of it.

88 under the hood?
Old 04-30-2007, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bogielake
Am I looking at the single pic right? That airfilter needs to be move into the FA stream. It looks like it is right behind the radiator....you will get nothing but hot air....is that just a prelim shot? I am sure Ed is on top of it.

88 under the hood?
the air filter is in front of the radiator...cool air only.. it is a nice kit and works well...i want to see some numbers on that thing.. tim, dont let them guys get slack .....that thing is going to be a beast...
Old 05-01-2007, 10:18 AM
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The location of the air cleaner isn't optimum, as it was drawing from hot underhood air. We are making a new panel that seals off the filter so it's only able to draw cool outside air. The car is all together, and we are tying up a lot of loose ends, but we will be driving it in the next day or so. A lot of things that were supposed to be already done on this car were not, so it took a little longer than expected to get to this point.

There's a lot of discussion as to whether the T76 will be big enough to make the power we're looking for on this 408. I think it will, others say no way, so I guess we will just have to see


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Old 05-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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is it done yet??? numbers???
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Originally Posted by MDMCZ06
The location of the air cleaner isn't optimum, as it was drawing from hot underhood air. We are making a new panel that seals off the filter so it's only able to draw cool outside air. The car is all together, and we are tying up a lot of loose ends, but we will be driving it in the next day or so. A lot of things that were supposed to be already done on this car were not, so it took a little longer than expected to get to this point.

There's a lot of discussion as to whether the T76 will be big enough to make the power we're looking for on this 408. I think it will, others say no way, so I guess we will just have to see


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Ed, you will probably get 700rwhp with that unit, but you will be sacrificing reliablilty to get there. Your backpressure #'s since I see your using a standard T76 from Turbonetics will be around 50-70psi with about 18-20psi of boost. Going to a 76GTS will bring them down only slightly to maybe 45-55psi or so. You don't have enough turbine for 750rwhp and doing it efficiently. The compressor will handle it albeit choking, but it will get there. Run the consumption charts vs PR vs compressor maps first. Then that will give you a starting point. Your best bet is to slow turbine speed down by going with a larger comp wheel, or do both and go larger on comp wheel and turbine wheel. Also a T6 would be the best combination.
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Originally Posted by Vince99FRC
I agree with what many have said about turbo sizing.. Since I am on the Supra Forum often I have seen a lot of new T4 turbo's in the 80mm to 81mm range that are very promising. If a 3.0L motor can hit 1000rwhp easily with a Sound Performance new 81mm T4 turbo you should be able to hit that easily with much less boost. I am not saying that it would be efficient, but I am saying it is doable.. If you get a chance have Ed P. take a look over in the SF and maybe SP can do something for you guys. SP is also working on a C6Z06 at this moment..
Their are much better comp wheels then the GT45R's SP is using. They are using box stock units from Garrett. Also the GT45R's 12 blade turbine wheel is not a bad choice for a large CI engine. You can get away with it on a Supra due to the high pressure ratios achieved, but lower the comp side PR and back pressure will become a BIG problem. More blades = more back pressure on the turbine side.
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Ed, you will probably get 700rwhp with that unit, but you will be sacrificing reliablilty to get there. Your backpressure #'s since I see your using a standard T76 from Turbonetics will be around 50-70psi with about 18-20psi of boost. Going to a 76GTS will bring them down only slightly to maybe 45-55psi or so. You don't have enough turbine for 750rwhp and doing it efficiently. The compressor will handle it albeit choking, but it will get there. Run the consumption charts vs PR vs compressor maps first. Then that will give you a starting point. Your best bet is to slow turbine speed down by going with a larger comp wheel, or do both and go larger on comp wheel and turbine wheel. Also a T6 would be the best combination.
We may be calling you, I just wanted to stay T4 if possible what would you go with on a T4 you are the Turbo expert we are just going with what I had. Or would you just T6 no matter what??
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Old 05-17-2007, 09:58 PM
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