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Old May 23, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by newgene
Check out this dyno graph. I was talking to LV Vette, and in conversation, he asked if I had any crazy dips on my dyno curve at high RPM. When I described what I have, he said that it is probably valve float, and I should go ahead and change my springs. Here is my dyno graph:



After doing some reading, I have to agree with him. I'm guessing I'm do for a spring change.
What sparkplugs and gap are you running? You could be blowing out the kernel.

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The valve spring resonance problem usually shows up between 5350 and 5500 rpm.
Belt slip?
Why would the belt slip around 5400 and not slip at higher rpm as boost and belt load increase?
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Old May 23, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
The valve spring resonance problem usually shows up between 5350 and 5500 rpm.
Belt slip?
Why would the belt slip around 5400 and not slip at higher rpm as boost and belt load increase?

Also, how about the HP & TQ lines, they do not cross at 5250. Something strange going on here
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Nothing strange.. You gotta look at the graph closer. They ONLY cross at 5250 when the hp and torque scaling is the same. In this case its not. Thats because usually either the HP or torque is far enough apart from the other that it causes the software to make the necessary adjustments on the graph in order to get it to show properly on the screen.

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Also, how about the HP & TQ lines, they do not cross at 5250. Something strange going on here
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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Norm_05_ GTO
What sparkplugs and gap are you running? You could be blowing out the kernel.

Norm
They were an NGK, but I actually forget the gap. It was a gap recommended to me by Andy, but I completely forgot.
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN_HP
Nothing strange.. You gotta look at the graph closer. They ONLY cross at 5250 when the hp and torque scaling is the same. In this case its not. Thats because usually either the HP or torque is far enough apart from the other that it causes the software to make the necessary adjustments on the graph in order to get it to show properly on the screen.

No biggie.
I've never seen or heard of that before, it's good to learn something new
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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
I've never seen or heard of that before, it's good to learn something new
Yeah, it's just plotting. The scale for HP is max at 600, while the torque scale is 500. It did that because the HP just crossed over the 500 mark, while the torque is just under it.

BTW, to get the correct crossing point, just multiple the crossing RPM point by 500/600 or 5/6, and you will get the same 5250 result. At least mathematically it should.
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Originally Posted by newgene
Yeah, it's just plotting. The scale for HP is max at 600, while the torque scale is 500. It did that because the HP just crossed over the 500 mark, while the torque is just under it.

BTW, to get the correct crossing point, just multiple the crossing RPM point by 500/600 or 5/6, and you will get the same 5250 result. At least mathematically it should.
Thanks for the explanation
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
The valve spring resonance problem usually shows up between 5350 and 5500 rpm.
Belt slip?
Why would the belt slip around 5400 and not slip at higher rpm as boost and belt load increase?
Looks to be the valve spring resonance issue.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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i just checked my graphs. mine actually only had the dips when i would spray. the n/a run was smooth as silk. i would think if it is resonance it would happen regardless of power level. now, blowing out the kernel, that may be more on track. at least with my graph. i'm thinking the added cylinder pressure of the n2o may have had a role in this. would love to find out once and for all though.
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